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marym625

(17,997 posts) Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:28 PM Dec 2014

Rapper facing 25 years to life for lyrics [View all]

Brandon Duncan, also known as Tiny Doo, is a rapper in San Diego. He's a 33 year old father with a baby on the way. He has no criminal record and is not part of a gang and never was part of one.

In 2012 he wrote, produced and distributed his own album. The lyrics are about gangs but do not promote violence.

A California law, legislated in 2000, that allows the prosecution of anyone that benefits from gang violence to be charged, is being used to prosecute Tiny Doo. Forget the fact that the lyrics were written in 2012 and the shootings he's supposed to have benefited from happened in 2013. Forget he has no gang affiliation, has no criminal record, has worked in music since he was 14. Mainly, forget he has a first amendment right to free speech. The prosecutor in the case has convinced the judge that there's enough evidence to go to trial.

The ACLU is getting involved and Tiny Doo's attorney is appealing the decision, though the prosecutors contend "this isn't a first amendment case. It's not about free speech."

So now we live in a country where we have a white cop, on video, using an illegal maneuver that kills a black man, and walks without charges, and a black man, who has worked since he was a teenager on his music, who has no criminal record and no involvement in any way with shootings he's charged with benefiting from, facing 25 years to life.

With this law being used in this fashion, the Boomtown Rats, more authors of books and movies than I can count along with the studios and production companies, should all be charged.

Racism is rampant in this country.

Here's a petition his sister has set up on change.org
https://www.change.org/p/my-brother-is-facing-25-years-to-life-for-making-a-rap-album

Here's a couple articles on the story

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/dec/03/tiny-doo-rapper-facing-life-for-making-album

http://mashable.com/2014/11/24/tiny-doo-charged-crime/

Here's an interview with Brandon

http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/tiny-doo-interview-jail-no-safety-faces-life-in-prison-for-recording-album

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Rapper facing 25 years to life for lyrics [View all] marym625 Dec 2014 OP

One more important link IVoteDFL Dec 2014 #1

Thanks marym625 Dec 2014 #2

Ahh, but it is, in so many ways...Some of us are just now noticing it I think randys1 Dec 2014 #51

I don't mean just racism marym625 Dec 2014 #56

Statute of limitations run out on the CIA drug trade? Downwinder Dec 2014 #3

It surely hasn't run out on the banks laundering drug money. But no prosecution for that. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #5

It's disgusting. marym625 Dec 2014 #26

Oh but that helps the country, don't you know? marym625 Dec 2014 #24

This is bullshit! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #4

I just read that they are considering marym625 Dec 2014 #72

I'm Speechless Ryan Fitzomething Dec 2014 #6

It feels like it's coming to that marym625 Dec 2014 #17

A society that arrests people for profit can't be a good thing. Initech Dec 2014 #83

Bingo.. Crime is at it's lowest rates in 40 years yet prisons are more full than ever SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #84

This will eventually go nowhere. hifiguy Dec 2014 #7

No doubt this is not correctly applied. marym625 Dec 2014 #18

No way can the courts let this stand, if he's convicted LittleBlue Dec 2014 #8

The charges should be thrown out along with the Sludge and the DA. n/t 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #9

So when I read this: mountain grammy Dec 2014 #10

I do. That's why I posted it marym625 Dec 2014 #19

We have some seriously myopic DAs & prosecutors. MindPilot Dec 2014 #43

I have always thought San Diego was a pretty racist place randys1 Dec 2014 #52

Demonic Sand Diego Boreal Dec 2014 #60

So when are they going to charge Oliver Stone because some drug dealers like quoting Scarface? (etc) Electric Monk Dec 2014 #11

Yet some question sarisataka Dec 2014 #12

I don't understand your point marym625 Dec 2014 #27

I believe free speech should be free sarisataka Dec 2014 #40

completely misunderstood what you meant marym625 Dec 2014 #41

Under California's anti-gang law, shouldn't some of the bankers who laundered money for JDPriestly Dec 2014 #13

Nope. just the black rapper marym625 Dec 2014 #20

Depends, are they black? Takket Dec 2014 #37

Nope. Not Hispanic either. I guess they are OK then. sarcasm. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #39

Outrageous! 1monster Dec 2014 #14

California is collapsing in on itself. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #15

Thank you marym625 Dec 2014 #21

Thank You For Sharing The Chomsky You Tube Video cantbeserious Dec 2014 #30

Don't blame the Guv Cartoonist Dec 2014 #36

Jerry Brown is better than all republicans combined times ten million randys1 Dec 2014 #53

Let's send all the gun and bullet manufacturers to prison Takket Dec 2014 #38

Sheer brilliance! JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #77

Kind of a nasty broad brush there. MindPilot Dec 2014 #42

Kick and R. BeanMusical Dec 2014 #16

K&R NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #22

2nd link: treestar Dec 2014 #23

One of the links marym625 Dec 2014 #28

It's definitely a stretch if they are saying that's how they assign him as gang member treestar Dec 2014 #46

Here is the actual law: Vattel Dec 2014 #64

Thanks for posting marym625 Dec 2014 #71

You are very welcome. Vattel Dec 2014 #73

It's frightening. marym625 Dec 2014 #74

"When you start convicting everyone for everything that is near them, you make everyone criminals." Vattel Dec 2014 #75

I said it before and I will say it again, marym625 Dec 2014 #76

That has at least three elements to prove treestar Dec 2014 #82

So, can we throw the SCOTUS in jail now? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #25

wouldn't that be nice! n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #29

This case hasn't gone to the SCOTUS, or reached any verdict at all. Silent3 Dec 2014 #80

Try to understand the connection I was attempting to make... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #81

If anything, CU strengthened the first amendment. It certainly doesn't hurt the first Vattel Dec 2014 #85

How can ANYONE say that Citizen's United strengthens the first amendment? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #86

Signed the Petition Thespian2 Dec 2014 #31

It sure does not. Thank you! marym625 Dec 2014 #34

amerikkka heaven05 Dec 2014 #32

We haven't lived in marym625 Dec 2014 #35

Not since the Iroquois Confederacy Sweeney Dec 2014 #45

yep. marym625 Dec 2014 #47

Gives me ten on you. Maybe. Sweeney Dec 2014 #49

You can feel it every where marym625 Dec 2014 #54

I know; and I am not your sensitive man sort of man. Sweeney Dec 2014 #57

The government has not fail because of the Constitution marym625 Dec 2014 #59

The constitution is a dying contradiction Sweeney Dec 2014 #61

That is effed up. AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #33

People do not have the right to free speech. Sweeney Dec 2014 #44

If any property answers, please let me know. marym625 Dec 2014 #48

I read you dossier Sweeney Dec 2014 #50

Bravo! and thank you. marym625 Dec 2014 #55

You are entirely welcome. Sweeney Dec 2014 #58

I seriously want to try this for a sociological experiment: Initech Dec 2014 #62

Very true. marym625 Dec 2014 #63

The law is manifestly unjust. If I were a jury member at his trial, Vattel Dec 2014 #65

It sure is. marym625 Dec 2014 #66

Expect no less from a fascist nation mb999 Dec 2014 #67

Yep. marym625 Dec 2014 #68

i thought collective punishment was considered a war crime Ramses Dec 2014 #69

Not even association. Nothing at all associates him with the shootings. marym625 Dec 2014 #70

Incredibly cynical and self-serving misuse Feral Child Dec 2014 #78

I hope so marym625 Dec 2014 #79

Cool! Feral Child Dec 2014 #87

Just a note, for those reading and followign this case nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #88

Thank you for this marym625 Apr 2015 #89