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In reply to the discussion: Obama hopes to enlist GOP in push for trade pact, despite Democratic resistance [View all]RiverLover
(7,830 posts)72. Holy Crap%*!@ Just read full article linked...This started out as a George W Bush deal.
Yet Democrats continue to criticize the TPP as little more than a repackaging of previous trade deals, such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), that failed to include enforceable standards on labor conditions and the environment and controls to halt foreign currency manipulation.
In airing their concerns, opponents have reminded Obama of his 2008 campaign, when he spoke skeptically about NAFTA and pledged to renegotiate it once he took office.
Im hoping he remembers that campaign and being in Ohio and speaking directly to folks who lost their job because of a trade agreement he was campaigning to renegotiate at that point, said Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), who opposes the TPP.
In the past several weeks, Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) held a strategy session with House Democrats about ways to slow the deal; Warren sent a three-page letter to U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman detailing concerns over provisions she said could undermine financial regulations; and the AFL-CIO launched an anti-TPP advertising campaign in Metro stations in the Washington area.
In response, the Obama administration has launched a whole of government campaign to build support in both parties on Capitol Hill. In addition to Froman, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker and Labor Secretary Thomas Perez have been involved in discussions with lawmakers.
In a recent address to the Business Roundtable, Obama acknowledged an uphill battle to convince his base that liberalizing trade policy and increasing global competition would not exacerbate wage stagnation after a long period of financial unease among middle-class Americans.
Theres no doubt that some manufacturing moved offshore in the wake of China entering the [World Trade Organization] and as a consequence of NAFTA, Obama said. Now, more of those jobs were lost because of automation and capital investment, but theres a narrative there that makes for some tough politics.
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The roots of the TPP stretch back to the George W. Bush administration, which first engaged in talks with a far smaller group of Pacific nations. When Obama took office, he put the effort on hold while his administration, in consultation with outside experts, examined trade issues.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-hopes-to-enlist-gop-in-push-for-trade-pact-despite-democratic-resistance/2014/12/26/81236a34-8600-11e4-b9b7-b8632ae73d25_story.html?hpid=z1
In airing their concerns, opponents have reminded Obama of his 2008 campaign, when he spoke skeptically about NAFTA and pledged to renegotiate it once he took office.
Im hoping he remembers that campaign and being in Ohio and speaking directly to folks who lost their job because of a trade agreement he was campaigning to renegotiate at that point, said Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), who opposes the TPP.
In the past several weeks, Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) held a strategy session with House Democrats about ways to slow the deal; Warren sent a three-page letter to U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman detailing concerns over provisions she said could undermine financial regulations; and the AFL-CIO launched an anti-TPP advertising campaign in Metro stations in the Washington area.
In response, the Obama administration has launched a whole of government campaign to build support in both parties on Capitol Hill. In addition to Froman, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker and Labor Secretary Thomas Perez have been involved in discussions with lawmakers.
In a recent address to the Business Roundtable, Obama acknowledged an uphill battle to convince his base that liberalizing trade policy and increasing global competition would not exacerbate wage stagnation after a long period of financial unease among middle-class Americans.
Theres no doubt that some manufacturing moved offshore in the wake of China entering the [World Trade Organization] and as a consequence of NAFTA, Obama said. Now, more of those jobs were lost because of automation and capital investment, but theres a narrative there that makes for some tough politics.
***************************************
The roots of the TPP stretch back to the George W. Bush administration, which first engaged in talks with a far smaller group of Pacific nations. When Obama took office, he put the effort on hold while his administration, in consultation with outside experts, examined trade issues.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-hopes-to-enlist-gop-in-push-for-trade-pact-despite-democratic-resistance/2014/12/26/81236a34-8600-11e4-b9b7-b8632ae73d25_story.html?hpid=z1
Would love to know who these "outside experts" were....
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Obama hopes to enlist GOP in push for trade pact, despite Democratic resistance [View all]
n2doc
Dec 2014
OP
If you have a min wage and a Chinese company can go to their in house negotiator court and win damages
Vincardog
Dec 2014
#86
How do you know what is in it? Even Congress cannot see this 'global deal' which is an outrage. The
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#36
What we've learned (no scare quotes) is OBAMA's discreditable negotiating position
Jim Lane
Dec 2014
#79
You emphasize public review but you're OK with fast track, which drastically curtails that review.
Jim Lane
Dec 2014
#94
Considering that they don't seem to be doing much else, you're probably right.
Buns_of_Fire
Dec 2014
#100
Union membership holds a vote to accept or decline a contrat. Without that vote there is no contract
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2014
#95
If as you state "The time to debate/comment on the agreement is the time between when the trade
Vincardog
Dec 2014
#102
There hasn't been a modern trade deal that has benefitted American workers ...
1StrongBlackMan
Dec 2014
#67
I'm wishing him a major fail on the TPP. This is a horrible bit of legislation, IMHO. n/t
CaliforniaPeggy
Dec 2014
#3
Sad, isn't it? So much good will built up, particularly over the past month or so.
arcane1
Dec 2014
#9
I can't wait to come on to DU and read about how this is supposed to be a good thing.
arcane1
Dec 2014
#4
Like how every superb liberal thing he does is instantly forgotten or denigrated?
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#13
You don't have to wait, I just responded to such a post above. The Third Way is ready for anyone
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#38
Intellectualism is not defined by giving the same old bullshit credence each time it is uttered.
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#108
Obama is an '80s Republican. He's said so himself on more than one occassion.
blkmusclmachine
Dec 2014
#7
Let the teabaggers use whatever terminology they want. The point is that Obama is trying
totodeinhere
Dec 2014
#23
I thought the complaint du jour was that TPP was being negotiated secretively.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#25
Yes, of course that is a complaint. Are you suggesting that our elected officials in Congress have
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#39
I guess you have't been following this over the past few years. Congress would like, in fact they
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#42
'Hysteria, paranoia'! That says it all. You clearly refuse to accept the FACTS which you are
sabrina 1
Dec 2014
#56
"I said any trade agreement I would support had to contain real, enforceable standards for workers."
pampango
Dec 2014
#29
Looks like Obama and his GOP partners are going to succeed in getting fast track. How nice for them.
pa28
Dec 2014
#19
Then we have to listen to right wingers blaming the Democratic party for the next 30 yrs.
B Calm
Dec 2014
#116
"Democrats keep losing because we don't defend government actions enough!" (or something like that)
MisterP
Dec 2014
#28
This could mean a pay cut for 90% of US workers, of course Democrats don't want it.
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#46
600 corps have seen the TPP in full, along with some unions. Here's what the unions think~
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#50
K&R It is the desire of Wall St supporters and investors, it will happen. nt
raouldukelives
Dec 2014
#54
As long as we get those 2 dollar a day salaries. It will be cause to celebrate more American
Katashi_itto
Dec 2014
#59
Holy Crap%*!@ Just read full article linked...This started out as a George W Bush deal.
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#72
Right, but that isn't what this story is about. Its about his own party being ag it and needing GOP
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#83
"Obama Ran Twice on Anti-NAFTA Free Trade; He was Lying to Us. Big TPP Push"
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#85