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HereSince1628

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13. NYPD declaring it's going to a war footing can't be supported.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 05:48 PM
Dec 2014

I give a shit if they turn their back on the mayor. That's a discipline issue I expect police management to handle.

But the going to war crap is way too close to declaring marshal law, and as they don't have authority to do that, it comes way way to close to a paramilitary coup.

It's not a discipline problem. It's the usurping of power, an act rebellion against lawful authority. I'm pretty sure it would be seen as a violation of their oath to uphold the Constitution and Laws of New York.

I do not agree with heir point of view, but I support their right to protest. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #1
I don't believe officers in uniform Control-Z Dec 2014 #6
They are American citizens. They certainly do have a right to protest as citizens. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #51
Are you allowed to protest while at work? Scuba Dec 2014 #73
I don't work for the government. joeglow3 Dec 2014 #93
No, but I used to work for the government. Scuba Dec 2014 #106
A big deal about the sanctity of the funeral was made to keep other protesters away daredtowork Dec 2014 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author daredtowork Dec 2014 #88
Paid by tax dollars... how do you feel about IRS employees protesting? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #61
I'm not sure that applies. Control-Z Dec 2014 #65
The same way I feel about the people in Furgusson protesting. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #102
off duty and out of uniform or other identifying insignia is fine CreekDog Dec 2014 #108
At a funeral? ann--- Dec 2014 #11
It was a policeman's funeral, and they were protesting their city government. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #52
Do they have the right to lie about the cause of the death of the officer at whose funeral sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #83
I don't know what you mean ann--- Dec 2014 #85
Not by being disrespectful to their boss ann--- Dec 2014 #84
Great comparison. n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #76
That's the issue treestar Dec 2014 #94
I support their right to organize and protest madville Dec 2014 #50
I agree entirly. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #53
Precisely. aquart Jan 2015 #110
Do police have a right to not help you if they disagree with you? aquart Dec 2014 #103
They are union members with the right to unionize. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #105
That's highly disrespectful. GGJohn Dec 2014 #2
Needs a Hell no.... daleanime Dec 2014 #3
The NYPD works for the people and mayor of New York City meow2u3 Dec 2014 #4
Was that your position with Wisconsin teachers pintobean Dec 2014 #7
Not even close in comparison Ellipsis Dec 2014 #8
plus CatWoman Dec 2014 #14
Unions are on the scum side? pintobean Dec 2014 #18
Jury results. Glassunion Dec 2014 #22
Thank you. pintobean Dec 2014 #24
Indeed. Glassunion Dec 2014 #25
Standing ovation Caretha Dec 2014 #44
Jury Results: Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #64
... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #32
What is happening to DU? ann--- Dec 2014 #86
Free speech here is limited to a specific subset of accepted speech. Bonx Dec 2014 #91
police unions often are Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #23
I've learned a lot about Police unions these past few months CatWoman Dec 2014 #41
they (police unions) are sick etherealtruth Dec 2014 #43
police unions are CatWoman Dec 2014 #42
Exactly. And it's that obvious. R B Garr Dec 2014 #47
You do realize that you anti-unon attitudes put you in agreement with Republicans. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #54
only asshole unions, which they fully endorse CatWoman Dec 2014 #55
Thank you for proving my point. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #57
you're very welcome. CatWoman Dec 2014 #58
Real unions SwankyXomb Dec 2014 #104
Real unions arrange to protect their members with health care, Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #107
It is a good comparison treestar Dec 2014 #95
Close as LA is to New York Ellipsis Dec 2014 #109
apples and oranges. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #15
That is what I would say too if I had no response. joeglow3 Dec 2014 #96
you're right backwoodsbob Dec 2014 #75
As a public school teacher, I was not even allowed to have an opinion or talk to the press. DamnYankeeInHouston Dec 2014 #5
The funeral was not the place for this. cwydro Dec 2014 #9
They should all be fired ann--- Dec 2014 #10
It was childish and not the place for it helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #12
NYPD declaring it's going to a war footing can't be supported. HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #13
Very childish LordGlenconner Dec 2014 #16
If they were not officially on duty customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #17
Not official duty PADemD Dec 2014 #27
If they violated any NYPD rules customerserviceguy Dec 2014 #30
IMO they have the right to protest LittleBlue Dec 2014 #19
every one that turned their backs Ramses Dec 2014 #20
their right to do so: YES etherealtruth Dec 2014 #21
IS it their right, while in uniform and on duty? WinkyDink Dec 2014 #39
Funny thing, I was reading through the rest of the thread and someone pointed that out (down thread) etherealtruth Dec 2014 #40
How many of them were on duty? joeglow3 Dec 2014 #97
they are like the military MFM008 Dec 2014 #26
I support the numerous SamKnause Dec 2014 #28
I thought the police didn't like protests? alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #29
Not only no, but hell no. onecaliberal Dec 2014 #31
Cops want to be pigs at a funeral, just shows you the true character and that of their supporters. Rex Dec 2014 #33
Not at a funeral... Mike Nelson Dec 2014 #34
Disgraceful at a funeral, reminds of the digusting Phelps (? not sure that's their name) family. nt Raine Dec 2014 #35
Dear Mayor de Blasio #NYPD are skilled at turning their backs, especially when it involves.. Cha Dec 2014 #36
Where is the option of madokie Dec 2014 #37
No. WTH do they think they are? WinkyDink Dec 2014 #38
Sure. LWolf Dec 2014 #45
I though the police turning their backs was rude, short-sighted and provocative. branford Dec 2014 #46
Other Ohio Joe Dec 2014 #48
+10 840high Dec 2014 #67
They are not protesting. They are just showing attitude. R B Garr Dec 2014 #49
No and ... Miigwech Dec 2014 #56
Yes I support their actions but NO I don't agree BadGimp Dec 2014 #59
I disagree with them, but support their right to do it, and don't think they should be fired. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #60
They prove that cops support their killer brethren Union Scribe Dec 2014 #62
I support their right to do so. Was it a dick move? Hell yes. n/t X_Digger Dec 2014 #63
The Police Showed Absolutely No Respect for Authority Today.. All While.. Cha Dec 2014 #66
I support their right to do it. I do not support them doing it. I'll stop now n/t kickysnana Dec 2014 #68
I am thoroughly disgusted by this obvious politically motivated act. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #69
had to chose "other" since you didn't clarify what you meant by "support" TorchTheWitch Dec 2014 #70
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #78
You seem to support them unconditionally against the mayor. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #80
You could have stopped after unconditionally. Rex Dec 2014 #100
Transparency is a great thing, those who support the racist cops really reveal quite a bit geek tragedy Dec 2014 #71
The question is "Do you support NYPD members turning their back on di Blasio?" NO. It's prepubescent Cha Dec 2014 #72
Out of Uniform and Off Duty they can peacefully protest to their hearts content ChosenUnWisely Dec 2014 #74
Going through this thread marym625 Dec 2014 #77
They behaved like that whack job church that protests at funerals. nt IdaBriggs Dec 2014 #79
The police union is being stupid Gothmog Dec 2014 #81
Don't have an issue bigwillq Dec 2014 #82
Lot of low post counts on yes voters. B Calm Dec 2014 #89
They're so subtle aren't they? nt Union Scribe Dec 2014 #98
Some of them have up to 5 hides. . B Calm Dec 2014 #99
There are a huge amount of posters who join but never or rarely post. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #101
The cops that turned the funerals of the two murdered policemen into workinclasszero Dec 2014 #90
No, they don't care. The union will protect them. closeupready Dec 2014 #92
Support as in they should have the right to do so? Sure. Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #111
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