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JDPriestly

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52. What Chuck Todd does not understand is that if you present falsehood as truth, people eventually
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

recognize and reject the deception you are allowing to be perpetrated. The intelligent stop trusting you.

Jon Stewart reveals the truth by exaggerating falsehoods in such an obvious manner that viewers see the deception (unless they are really stupid, and many conservatives are really stupid).

Moliere's comic shtick was to, for example, portray such an extreme miser that everyone recognized the elemental characteristics of the miser and could then recognize those traits not just in others but maybe, hopefully in themselves.

That's what Jon Stewart and Black do. They take an obvious lie that is being pushed off on Americans, blow it up, exaggerate it so that we can see its components very clearly. There humor or satire is like a magnifying glass focused on the political lies and liars of our time.

Their humor works only because they enlarge some sort of lie -- a conceit, that is some belief we have about ourselves that is flattering but not honest -- an outright falsehood that we are being persuaded to believe.

Chuck Todd, in allowing lies to be told on his show by people who impress him as being very important, is hiding the truth, allowing falsehoods to be passed off as truth. People are sick of it. That's why we are cynical.

Jon Stewart joins the cynicism that is in us already and serves it up for all to see. He presents the falsehoods in such exaggerated form that their falseness becomes obvious -- clear. Watching him is relief. "Ahh-- we say, here is someone who understands why we feel so disillusioned, so cynical. Here is someone in sync with us. Here is someone we can like and trust." We watch Jon Stewart and Black because we get a feeling of relief from watching someone express the cynicism that the dishonesty of mainstream media elicits in us.

If Chuck Todd, our politicians and our other media started presenting the truth, examining the statements of politicians more critically, sure, the politicians would not appear on their shows, would not be showcased, would not be seen by the public, would lose name recognition, become less popular, lose elections. Would that be a bad thing? Who knows?

Maybe some of the dishonest crowd that now predominate on Chuck Todd's show would become less influential, would lose elections?

Wouldn't that be great? Imagine an America in which politicians had to tell the truth to get elected. Wow! I sigh in relief at the thought of it. Whoopee!

How about that, Chuck Todd? You've got the power. Why don't you try to shake some of the scum that you present on your show out of politics? Don't you think the nation would gain if you do?

The frustration on the part of "serious" (meaning lying or complicit in the lies of others scumbag) "journalists" like Chuck Todd with Jon Stewart is that Jon Stewart is doing what they should be doing, and they know it.

Jon Stewart shines the line of ridicule on the ridiculous lies that the mainstream media including Chuch Todd and corporations are trying to sell us.

Go, Jon Stewart, Go. You are doing your job. When you are no longer needed, your ratings will go way, way down. But don't worry. The truth never wins out completely. Satire is always needed. Especially at times like ours when great change is coming but is still just a speck on the distant horizon.

Moliere helped sow the seeds that eventually brought down the do-nothing but fight wars phony French aristocracy. And he did it with ridicule. He reflected the justified cynicism of his time. He pretended to ridicule the rising middle class, but his real targets were the established fat-cats fo his time. He won at least to some extent, never completely. Eventually. It took time. But eventually, women were not married off to boring old men and were allowed to choose their life's mate.

And Chuck Todd -- be ashamed. Be very ashamed. You are not a journalist. You are a patsy. Straighten your back and do what is right and not what is easy. For a change. You have surely made enough money by now that you can afford to be honest and to demand honesty from those you place in the center stage of American life by interviewing them on your show.

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the republicans have chuck and most of the media right where they want them... spanone Dec 2014 #1
i agree... but why arent Republicans more afraid of being the ones to lose access? renate Dec 2014 #35
they have the ever nurturing homestead of faux 'news' where their lies are welcome. spanone Dec 2014 #37
YEP. The GOP controls MSM's narrative. nt TheBlackAdder Dec 2014 #55
YEP. The GOP controls MSM's narrative. +1 StevePaulson Dec 2014 #71
So little Chuckie is afraid no one will come on his show if he calls them on their lies notadmblnd Dec 2014 #2
it was an open invitation to liars....chuck revealed the truth about our broken media. spanone Dec 2014 #21
He's afraid he'll get cut out of the Beltway cocktail party circuit CanonRay Dec 2014 #79
Setiously, then why are the hosts even there? cyberswede Dec 2014 #3
^^^^^ mopinko Dec 2014 #8
that's the Fox model Doctor_J Dec 2014 #11
Some one has to pitch the softballs and know when to break for a commercial. GreatCaesarsGhost Dec 2014 #29
To make profits for corporate media owners Martin Eden Dec 2014 #39
Take away their access unless they tell the truth dickthegrouch Dec 2014 #56
Yes, this^^^^^^^^ lolly Dec 2014 #62
That's all that matters. Ratings. Even though BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #4
Chuck Todd is a jerk tiredtoo Dec 2014 #5
Yes yes yes tavernier Dec 2014 #86
That's fine, it is exactly what I expect from corporate money whores with no moral compass. Rex Dec 2014 #6
Seriously, how difficult is it cilla4progress Dec 2014 #7
no shit. mopinko Dec 2014 #9
Your suggestion wheniwasincongress Dec 2014 #19
If they refuse to come on because their lies are challenged GREAT! They cede the discussion then. on point Dec 2014 #10
Exactly.... Liberal Lantern Dec 2014 #14
+1, Show a video of their position and then let the countering begin... State that the GOP uponit7771 Dec 2014 #47
Indeed. If they refuse to come on? So what? There are other fish in the sea. LOTS of them. calimary Dec 2014 #74
Who needs access to lies? snot Dec 2014 #12
...and that's why Rachel Maddow wins every time. Cooley Hurd Dec 2014 #13
And that is a phony excuse. zeemike Dec 2014 #15
"... politicians (Republicans) would refuse to be on his show." I'm trying to see the downside. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #16
Chuck is adorable ... GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #17
Look out Edward R. Murrow WillTwain Dec 2014 #18
And that's when you talk about them then finally say at the end, "We invited so-and-so to be a guest Trekologer Dec 2014 #20
Welcome to Idiocracy thelordofhell Dec 2014 #22
There was a time when it Duval Dec 2014 #49
I'll remember your "balance" comment, Todd, the next 16 times Gramps McCain is on your show. Paladin Dec 2014 #23
So, its better to let them lie then them refusing to show up? project_bluebook Dec 2014 #24
In other news, bears still shitting in the woods. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #25
Maybe it is time to close down Meet the Press. gordianot Dec 2014 #26
Which begs the question... Oilwellian Dec 2014 #27
Exactly. Andy823 Dec 2014 #36
Did anyone watch the clip? thesquanderer Dec 2014 #28
I watched the whole clip and the headline gist comes from the quote in the OP BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #43
So then they all have adopted the Fox News business model Gman Dec 2014 #30
"Todd said that he allows guests to lie on Meet The Press, because avebury Dec 2014 #31
Essentially all Chuck wants is a warm body. What it says doesn't matter. Vinca Dec 2014 #32
Is he feeling the centrifugal force? MADem Dec 2014 #33
Can someone point me to the article Toady keeps referring to that blames satirical comedy Fla Dem Dec 2014 #34
Todd is a snivalling disgusting creep that induces vomiting at the sight of him. olegramps Dec 2014 #38
Fuck the Republicans. MrScorpio Dec 2014 #40
Amen! MrScorpio katmondoo Dec 2014 #41
He may as well fart into the camera Quantess Dec 2014 #42
When did Chuck stop worrying that no one would watch his show? Frustratedlady Dec 2014 #44
There's a word for challenging politicians on their lies, Chuck SwankyXomb Dec 2014 #45
I'm calling BS on this idea that Republicans would not show up. ZX86 Dec 2014 #46
I agree. I call BS too. Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #57
Total lack of character... uponit7771 Dec 2014 #48
This is the inevitable result of the fall of Right Wing "Think" Tanks after Newt.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #50
B I N G O Cosmocat Dec 2014 #84
That was also the time of their Great Reagan Revisionism,... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #88
Anyone can sit there and let them lie, Chuck. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #51
What Chuck Todd does not understand is that if you present falsehood as truth, people eventually JDPriestly Dec 2014 #52
YO! team bringing Internet ments to CHUCK TODD! Mike Nelson Dec 2014 #53
Is he stupid? Rhetorical. So what, chuckie.. the lying ******** Don't come on your show?!!!!! Cha Dec 2014 #54
... napkinz Dec 2014 #58
IOW, Chuck is conceding to being in a pack of jackals. Cha Dec 2014 #77
That model works out pretty good,,,, Cryptoad Dec 2014 #59
ANY of them who bucks the GOP will get the KO treatment: freshwest Dec 2014 #60
Hey, Toady, if they can't tell the truth they don't deserve to be on the air. Scuba Dec 2014 #61
I emailed this story to Chuck Todd and this what he answered back Botany Dec 2014 #63
So if the damn Republicans won't do the Sunday talk shows because they are afraid of being 4lbs Dec 2014 #64
Fascism blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #65
Upchuck fucks up Blue Owl Dec 2014 #66
I'm surprised Meet the Press is still on the air. mackerel Dec 2014 #67
Chuck Todd's Framing Is Awful DallasNE Dec 2014 #68
I Don't Watch Meet The Press StevePaulson Dec 2014 #69
No more repubs aspirant Dec 2014 #70
Goes to show ya' that Madmiddle Dec 2014 #72
I just want to know how he can move his mouth and his asshole at the same time davidpdx Dec 2014 #73
he just disqualified himself as a journalist stupidicus Dec 2014 #75
I have to admit, I don't watch Sunday morning talk shows because they are not interesting, but... stevenleser Dec 2014 #76
He is a mouthpiece for the the 1% and the corporations. Why would he question them? raouldukelives Dec 2014 #78
Todd is making David Gregory look competent. Paladin Dec 2014 #80
Chuck Toad has graduated to flamingdem Dec 2014 #81
Corporate ? father founding Dec 2014 #82
People still watch Meet the Depressed? L0oniX Dec 2014 #83
Tweety said the same thing during the Bush / Kerry elections Evergreen Emerald Dec 2014 #85
MTP = Rachel Maddow StevePaulson Dec 2014 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #89
Todd is indeed a dumbass Gothmog Dec 2014 #90
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