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In reply to the discussion: Now will people believe me when I say we live in a de facto police state? [View all]Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)this is the modern police state. Posting on forums criticizing the police state is fine, as long as you don't actually try to organize in the street. Then they will crush you. You can have all the guns you can eat, as long as you are the right color and use them on the right people.
I really don't understand people's refusal to accept that this is a police state:
1) Torture is legal
2) War criminals, including the former Vice President of the United States OPENLY admit to torture, are proud of it and state uncategorically they would torture innocent people without remorse. They walk the streets while people of the wrong color who dare to be in the wrong place are murdered without consequence.
3) Anti-government protests are tolerated unless they actually look like they may accomplish something, then they are brutally suppressed.
4) Money and property are "legally" stolen from people every day under civil forfeiture laws.
5) Citizens are spied upon with impunity.
6) Citizens may be declared "terrorists" and simply executed by drone without trial.
7) We have a death penalty that is regularly applied with little regard for actual innocence. In fact, the Supreme Court ruled that actual innocence was not a compelling reason not to execute someone (look up Herrera v. Collins)
8) We have a massive prison system which provides slave labor to corporate America and routinely abuses prisoners.
I really don't know what else I can do to prove that by any reasonable definition of the term we are a police state, even if we don't have guys running around in leather jack boots, speaking in German accents.