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hifiguy

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41. The OSS snapped up all the high-level Nazis they could find
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:14 PM
Dec 2014

at the end of the war, and it wasn't to put them on trial; it was to learn from them and their methods. So did Soviet military intelligence. These supposedly "ex" Nazis had a profound effect on the development of the New Fascist Security State that is now being openly displayed, though it has been in the oven for 60 years.

They can' be stopped at this point.

The New Fascism is going to have to come and go of its own accord. There's no way to stop it anymore as both political parties are in total thrall to the New Fascist/tenth-percent elite. The propaganda machines are too big, too sophisticated and too well-funded to be stopped and a significant plurality of the populace is possessed of critical thinking abilities that make the proverbial bag of hammers look like Einstein.

The last 35 years have seen this country intentionally dumbed down to a degree I would never have thought possible back in the 1970s. Stupid people are much easier to control. The propaganda machine, which includes the cretinous fundy "churches," has conquered all that has come before it. Politicians that have, for the last 35 years, been bought and paid for by the tenth-percenters and emerging New Fascists, serve only the masters that pay them, and that is true for BOTH parties.

TPTB learned long ago, and took special note of a certain period in 20th century German history, how a easily even a well-educated mass populace can be manipulated. But Goebbels didn't try to make the German people DUMBER. His mistake was not repeated by our oligarchs, whose first project was to make as many people as dumb as possible. Sheeple are very easy to control and can easily be convinced to vote against their own interests.

The New Fascists want a populace that is just barely smart enough to make the machines work and fill out the forms, but are nowhere near smart enough to think critically and ask questions such as "just who the fuck put us in this handcart and why is it getting so hot?"

Obama let the banksters go scot-free and will do nothing to prosecute torturers even though he is under a non-dischargeable legal duty to do so and is reifying War Now War Forever in the Middle East..He is complicit in all the crimes of the past 35 years because he has done nothing to punish those responsible and has actively pursued the same policies. The last six years have shown that the system is now wholly under the control of the New Fascists and it is NOT going to change anytime soon - probably not in the lifetime of anyone here on DU.

It will take a planetary catastrophe to topple The New Fascism, but that catastrophe WILL come as surely as the sun rises in the east. Asteroid strike, nuclear exchange, climate-related world disaster - something of that nature will be needed to clear the boards and make it possible to examine the possibility of a humane and sustainable society based on principles of democratic socialism.

In NYC of all places Americans went out of their way to elect a known criminal randys1 Dec 2014 #1
We've done that for years here in California. Cleita Dec 2014 #2
Forgot about him, Republicans consider these criminals as heroes. randys1 Dec 2014 #3
Look up Charles Colson too jmowreader Dec 2014 #9
"Charles "Tex" Colson...was the only person from Dick's White House to be sent to prison BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #21
You're right, thanks jmowreader Dec 2014 #23
I remember watching the hearings BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #31
They need to reopen Joliet for Liddy jmowreader Dec 2014 #38
Too far gone. We're sitting ducks. Done. n/t Triana Dec 2014 #4
Probably not. Igel Dec 2014 #5
Can't link from a mobile device. Cleita Dec 2014 #7
Thanks, Cleita Thespian2 Dec 2014 #14
The linguistic subtleties do not detract from the fact that JDPriestly Dec 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Cleita Dec 2014 #6
The British put children in concentration camps during the Boer War. yardwork Dec 2014 #8
Torture itself dates back to the beginning of civilization. What's Cleita Dec 2014 #18
What I'm saying ua the Third Reich learned from us. yardwork Dec 2014 #33
The Catholic Church tortured during the inquisitions. Torture is probably JDPriestly Dec 2014 #37
Because it worked then, and now. Hulk Dec 2014 #34
I remember now Hulk Dec 2014 #35
Truman worried CIA would morph into GESTAPO Octafish Dec 2014 #10
Beat me to it by 2 minutes... and did a much better job... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #13
No race -- just want to peg the NAZI-lubbing so-and-sos for what they are: Fascists. Octafish Dec 2014 #24
Yeah, and they're gonna get away with it... SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #28
The people on whom Smedley Butler blew the whistle hifiguy Dec 2014 #43
link? arely staircase Dec 2014 #11
Can't link from a mobile device, however Octafish put up a Cleita Dec 2014 #15
Not just the term... (which actually means "sharpened or intensified") SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #12
Thanks. I need to study this more. I thought I was pretty much up on all Cleita Dec 2014 #16
I do find it interesting that whenever the current "boogyman" is in the news SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #17
I think it's pretty calculating. Cleita Dec 2014 #32
"Was, ich soll mir Sorgen machen?"---Prescott Bush. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #19
Are you saying Alfred E. Neuman was really Prescott Bush? eom Cleita Dec 2014 #22
"Well, they brought it on themselves"---Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. reddread Dec 2014 #25
Now they want you to call it 'EIT'. It's torture. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #20
How is adding a word making it okay?eom Cleita Dec 2014 #27
It's all harmless, abstract abbreviations until somebody slams your head against a wall. DetlefK Dec 2014 #29
We borrowed a lot from the NAZIs when forming our CIA and other intelligence agencies after JDPriestly Dec 2014 #26
So we take from the worst instead of the best. Cleita Dec 2014 #30
You got it. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #39
"Befehl ist Befehl" ("orders are orders") is back by popular demand from the torturers. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #40
The OSS snapped up all the high-level Nazis they could find hifiguy Dec 2014 #41
Operation Paperclip arikara Dec 2014 #42
There you go... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #44
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