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In reply to the discussion: So Air Traffic Controllers wanted fair wages and decent working conditions, Reagan fired them [View all]Raine1967
(11,693 posts)7. The ATC members should not have been fired, nor should the NYPD, however:
They sure as hell need to understand that this union negotiating tactic does not deserve a reward.
I get what you are trying to illustrate, but I am still of the opinion that what is happening in the NYPD is not all LEO's. I liked very much what the New York DAily news said in its Op_Ed today: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/jonathan-tasini-labor-reject-lynch-bitter-bile-article-1.2060012 (read the entire piece, I am posting four paragraphs.)
As Lynch spouts venom, I find the current silence from fellow union leaders troubling for three basic reasons.
First, labor played a critical role in electing Bill de Blasio. Many unions supported him in the Democratic primary and he had virtually unanimous labor support in the general election.
Standing by while a rogue union leader launches vituperative attacks may weaken public support for the mayor. That could make it harder for him to champion further advances on top of living wage requirements, paid sick leave and universal pre-K, all initiatives benefiting workers and their families, not to mention higher taxes on the wealthy and rent-law protections.
Second, as Lynchs divisive ranting goes unchallenged, labors overall standing is taking a hit. Young people marching in the streets will ask, correctly, why no labor leader contradicted his poisonous rhetoric. That will hurt our ability to build broad coalitions in the future and recruit young, energetic political activists.
First, labor played a critical role in electing Bill de Blasio. Many unions supported him in the Democratic primary and he had virtually unanimous labor support in the general election.
Standing by while a rogue union leader launches vituperative attacks may weaken public support for the mayor. That could make it harder for him to champion further advances on top of living wage requirements, paid sick leave and universal pre-K, all initiatives benefiting workers and their families, not to mention higher taxes on the wealthy and rent-law protections.
Second, as Lynchs divisive ranting goes unchallenged, labors overall standing is taking a hit. Young people marching in the streets will ask, correctly, why no labor leader contradicted his poisonous rhetoric. That will hurt our ability to build broad coalitions in the future and recruit young, energetic political activists.
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So Air Traffic Controllers wanted fair wages and decent working conditions, Reagan fired them [View all]
randys1
Dec 2014
OP
yup fire every one of them let them enjoy the vast wealth and comfy living on unemployment
belzabubba333
Dec 2014
#1
He was also informing on his union brothers and sisters to the FBI during those years
Major Nikon
Dec 2014
#16
+100 Reagan was never a real union man, let alone a union leader. He was a plant and a stooge.
NewDeal_Dem
Dec 2014
#21
So you are championing Reagan's labor busting that caused irreparable harm to the labor movement?
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2014
#2
What part of this dont you get? ONe group wanted safe working conditions, the other wants
randys1
Dec 2014
#3
Reagan abused his authority and caused grave long standing damage to workers rights.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2014
#4
youre able to stand up and turn your back on your boss as a fuck you while he' giving a
belzabubba333
Dec 2014
#33
they're not doing it as individuals acting individually to their boss. they're doing it as a group.
NewDeal_Dem
Dec 2014
#34
yes i have heard of strikes. most union contracts dont include wildcat strikes most strikes happen
belzabubba333
Dec 2014
#36
There's a difference between acting on behalf of the union and acting as an employee
Major Nikon
Dec 2014
#38
I agree. It could have gone badly. The reprucussions for wokres still play out today.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2014
#10
I know much of DU wants to get behind the whole Reagan was wonderful thing but what he did was
Bluenorthwest
Dec 2014
#8