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In reply to the discussion: How did the Democratic Party let this President become so vilified? [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,973 posts)On the one hand, Obama did it to himself by veerign right after campigning left. Keepign people like Rahm did a LOT of damage, and then the cabinet he picked, that he took heat for, could not wait to write tell all books about hoe Obama was really too much of a liberal. Yes, even Hillary did it with her judas kiss book where she explained how she would have gone to war with Syria. Never mind that Syria could have, and may yet, start war with the Russians. Honestly, if Obama turned to the left, like she sold hiumself as, I cannot promise there would have been hordes to support him. Some have said the left would have united, sorry, I see little evidence that they would have, but even so, he could have had the eventuial respect of those who knew he stood true, much like many of the same people who hated Jimmy Carter now realize he was one of our better presidents.
On the other hand, let's be real honest, the left is divided, and there are some good reasons it is divided, namely because the centre-rioght has tried to take over the left, and by take over, I mean kill. The left is also emboldened because now thath the cold war is over and the USSR is long dead, they can develop some of the good ideas without having that communist/stalinist taint on them. Now, I do not want to become lockstep goosetep like out GOP friends, BUT, until we can attack the right with the same ferocity as we do each other, we will be running with one leg in a marathon. We do not have to agree woith eahc other, but we do need to get together, and define someco mmon ground, and yes, that common ground MUST be firmly to the LEFT if the line Bill Clinton drew.
And here is that last part, which will no doubt get me on shit lists. The Clintons did a lot to divided the left, and frankly, barring a lot of work by Hillary, they still are. Many of the PUMAS, from Maureen O' Dowd to Arriana Huffington, never thought Obama was worthy to challenge their anointed Queen, and they have been sniping at him since day one. Hell, when you read cute little quips here like "he really did not have the experience" (as if some professor from Arkansas did) or "Tell me how anyone other than Hillary Clinton can actually WIN" (done with a self assured sneer)we know that many who support Clinton are willing to demonize and attack others on the left. Why does this have to do with Obama, because frankly the Clintons are not defending Obama, but already cashing in on the whole "you know you shoulda voted for us" nostalgia. The 2014 elections were not won, and yet the 2016 campauigns were under way, takign away focus, time and money.
Now before some of you start yelling that Hillary could not have done anything, let me say, she could have spoken up. She could actually DEFEND THE RECORD of the man who HIRED HER to be SOS when many on this very board were begging him to KICK HER AND BILL TO THE CURB! Instead, what do the Clintons do, they supoorted people like Alison Lundergan Grimes to run, who screamed in their loud voice "I diagree with Barack Obama!" especially in Kentucky which benefitted from that hated Obamacare. The Clintons got behidn Blue Dog stinkers from landrieu to Grimes, all of whom might have well have made their campiagn slogan "I hate Obama as much as the GOP does." Never mind how these folks got slaughtered in the elections, they are part of Hillary's supporters, and lo and behold they will be put forth again, while the knives are sharpened for Warren and Sanders.