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102. I have never before failed to vote in a Presidential election . . .

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Thu Jan 1, 2015, 12:03 PM

Jan 2015

but I don't think I could bring myself to vote for Hillary.

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Election 2016: Hillary Must Sever All Ties to Obama�s Economic Team [View all] WillTwain Dec 2014 OP

Without unions Dems can't get the White House upaloopa Dec 2014 #1

I hope Trumka sticks to his guns. We need union leadership in a big way. WillTwain Dec 2014 #2

Did I miss the primary election? AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #3

This is a serious development. WillTwain Dec 2014 #4

Your assumption is we can only AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #7

Not at all. she is the presumptive candidate. I think we can win with any of a variety of candidates WillTwain Dec 2014 #8

She is the "presumptive candidate"? Scootaloo Jan 2015 #126

This will be fun to see. Ink Man Dec 2014 #19

Exactly, the key is will Trumka cave? WillTwain Dec 2014 #22

Trumka is assuming, too. WillTwain Dec 2014 #32

You are way off on this. You seem to want H. Clinton to tell you she supports unions rhett o rick Dec 2014 #51

I understand what you are saying. WillTwain Dec 2014 #52

Go stick it 3rd wayers. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #5

You took the words out of Trumka's mouth. WillTwain Dec 2014 #9

Either way I am not voting for her. Not one of the Architect's of TPP. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #10

If she wins the primary, you are out? WillTwain Dec 2014 #11

Better a bullet to the head under Republicans, than a slow death by a thousand paper cuts. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #13

Maybe WillTwain Dec 2014 #14

not sure I'm understanding you...you mean you'd rather vote for a Republican than HC Sheepshank Dec 2014 #18

Naw, WillTwain Dec 2014 #21

Thanks Will. That's exactly what i am saying. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #24

No. I will stay home Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #23

i won't stay home, because I have other, GOOD Democrats hifiguy Dec 2014 #28

This may be a canary in the coal mine WillTwain Dec 2014 #29

+1 Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #33

yeah...got it. Sheepshank Dec 2014 #44

Lol...whatever. Vote for whom you like. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #48

whatever shall we do without your usual unwavering supporrt for democrats? arely staircase Jan 2015 #75

That is fallacious reasoniing, reminiscent of the German Communist Party in KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #31

I am not saying we would get a positive change. Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #34

You're a Democrat, right? BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #76

I don't.. sendero Dec 2014 #25

If you think Democrats can win without union support, you have not canvassed or worked on a JDPriestly Jan 2015 #93

Amen to this and to Trumka. hifiguy Dec 2014 #27

What was that about we must vote Hillary or we aren't Dems? Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #6

She is the one who is a quetionable dem. WillTwain Dec 2014 #12

I had alot of people screaming on DU that not voting for her was being a traitor to the Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #15

It is a tough one. WillTwain Dec 2014 #16

SCOTUS seats, not unions, will play the most important part in my decision to vote in 2016. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #78

I agree WillTwain Jan 2015 #81

Have you ever actually volunteered, made calls and walked precincts for Democrats? JDPriestly Jan 2015 #94

Exactly! Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #97

You've misread my post (wouldn't be the first time, JD), but I wasn't knocking unions. I"m BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #99

There are plenty of union members that hate unions. WillTwain Jan 2015 #100

Nothing in your post applies to me or my original post. Again, my argument centers BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #108

You make a very valid point. WillTwain Jan 2015 #113

Great. If you are SEIU, you are one of the people who comes out when elections are near. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #127

Unions don't have that power anymore. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #158

Did unions strongly support the Democratic candidates in 2014? JDPriestly Jan 2015 #159

" . . . in part thanks to the lack of Democratic support for unions . . . " Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #161

If she wins the primaries, then yes, if you don't vote for her after the majority of Dems BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #77

Bullshit. PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #106

Tough Call. WillTwain Jan 2015 #107

Yes, we need to reject "the lesser of two evils" but NOT in a general election. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #111

I totally get the drift but, WillTwain Jan 2015 #118

a sickness PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #120

I am a broken record WillTwain Jan 2015 #121

Uh... BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #156

My, aren't you glib. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #109

glib? PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #115

How cute! But seriously, you should look up the definition of the word rather than some YouTube BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #128

why don't you take your own advice? PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #131

I didn't post a YouTube video like some clueless teenager, so how should I "take my own advice"?. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #155

you are not worth any further response on my part PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #164

Um...take a look at your response to my original comment and then get back to me BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #165

Yep, they are the purity police davidpdx Jan 2015 #88

I will ask you what I have asked others who do not understand the importance of union support JDPriestly Jan 2015 #95

Actually I agree with you davidpdx Jan 2015 #98

Trumka gave a good speech recently in Missouri....I recommend reading or watching it in full Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #17

It is connected. Unions turn capitalist economies upside down. WillTwain Dec 2014 #20

Excellent Point Joe Turner Dec 2014 #56

America was Nirvana WillTwain Dec 2014 #59

Indeed! Joe Turner Jan 2015 #83

Black men are more likely to be union men than whites. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #90

I am sure she will replace all the Citibank types hifiguy Dec 2014 #26

I am sure you know Obama adopted Bill's team in the first place. WillTwain Dec 2014 #30

LOL! The only thing Hillary has going for is whatever ties she can get to Obama. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #35

Can you explain? WillTwain Dec 2014 #36

She voted for the Iraq War. She enthusiastically championed the Iraq War. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #37

Do you think she should tie herself to Obama? WillTwain Dec 2014 #38

Judging by the recent election results of all the Dems who ran from him True Blue Door Dec 2014 #39

Just for discussion sake WillTwain Dec 2014 #40

That's 48% and trending up. AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #58

He got a pop. Good for him. WillTwain Dec 2014 #60

Barack Obama has a great personality. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #96

And cut off her main revenue stream, both for her campaign and her personal finances? Doctor_J Dec 2014 #41

I really do not think people understand the magnitude if this. WillTwain Dec 2014 #42

"I never felt comfortable playing a populist" - Barack Obama WillTwain Dec 2014 #43

the sad part is DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #45

What are the odds that Hill will tell Bill to go to hell. WillTwain Dec 2014 #46

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #86

My closest and best friends criticize me much more often than acquaintances. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #168

Richard, her neolib Roladex has a deeper bench than her husband's retreads TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #47

Too many think politics is about winning elections. WillTwain Dec 2014 #49

and if you change enough lives, you can win more elections. Doctor_J Dec 2014 #50

FDR used this formula to win four elections. WillTwain Dec 2014 #53

Of course to drive you do have to win elections but you can never lose track of the being a means TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #54

No depth or sense of history. WillTwain Dec 2014 #61

And President Obama has done an incredible job changing lives for the better BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #157

What Trumka ACTUALLY said was ... NanceGreggs Dec 2014 #55

"I think that Hillary did an excellent job as secretary of state. I think she is very, very Cha Dec 2014 #62

Here is a link to the story. Read it and weep. it cannot be any clearer. Sorry. WillTwain Dec 2014 #65

You weep.. I know what it says. BFD but, yeah.. I know you're "sorry". Cha Dec 2014 #70

What is your trip? Did you read it? Did you listen to the girl? They are done with Obama's economic team. WillTwain Dec 2014 #71

What is your trip? Telling me to "read it and weep" and "Sorry".. Cha Jan 2015 #72

I am tired of the childish ankle biting. Did you read the article. The first word are clear as hell. WillTwain Jan 2015 #73

If you're so tired of "childish ankle biting" then you should really act as role model and practice Cha Jan 2015 #166

He said it verbatim. WillTwain Dec 2014 #63

Other than a verbatim quote, it never happened MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #85

Do you know what "verbatim" means? NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #89

He can't answer your question. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #160

Oh, my. NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #162

I'd like to see unions take it a step farther using ALL political funds to develop labor candidates. pa28 Dec 2014 #57

Trumka has finally had enough. Obama was the last straw. WillTwain Dec 2014 #67

What a silly thing to say. What are the unions going to do? Wait until she's elected to find out Autumn Dec 2014 #64

I sort of agree WillTwain Dec 2014 #66

Promises? That will do it. 2008. Obama said he was going to do a lot of things Autumn Dec 2014 #68

Don't let Cha or Nance Greggs see your post. They are enjoying Candyland. WillTwain Dec 2014 #69

Stop your "childish ankle biting".. you look silly. Cha Jan 2015 #74

You need to realize: You screw with the bull you get the horn. WillTwain Jan 2015 #79

Unintentional irony is the best kind Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #163

You "cool your jets" and your big ol "bull horn". Cha Jan 2015 #167

What NanceGreggs is interested in ... NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #91

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #104

I specifically asked ... NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #123

unreal alert. trumad Jan 2015 #124

Thanks, trumad! NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #125

I just got off a 3 month suspension trumad Jan 2015 #129

Well, if you're going to throw around ... NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #133

Wondered where you'd been, trumad.. Welcome back, ya knucklehead! Cha Jan 2015 #150

yep... trumad Jan 2015 #152

Maybe it's the same one? lol or there's more than one of them out there who shouldn't be on juries. Cha Jan 2015 #153

juror 2 must be a deranged fuckwad JI7 Jan 2015 #143

And, doesn't mind showing it off..anonymously of course Cha Jan 2015 #151

Damn, everything was going so good,too. The Ducks won big. Where is the wine? WillTwain Jan 2015 #154

Wrong place nt ucrdem Jan 2015 #101

Serious question. Leaving who exactly? I said nothing about anyone leaving. nt Autumn Jan 2015 #103

We must several all ties to the fucking Koch Bros. Initech Jan 2015 #80

We need to vote for leaders with big bold ideas. Bernie. WillTwain Jan 2015 #82

+1 - Bernie for president! Initech Jan 2015 #84

and when labor went for Reagan how did that work out for them? In fact labor is started going still_one Jan 2015 #87

Anyone who has ever partgicipated in a Democratic campaign on the ground in the final JDPriestly Jan 2015 #92

I have never before failed to vote in a Presidential election . . . snot Jan 2015 #102

Leaving whom exactly? CATO and the AEI? ucrdem Jan 2015 #105

The economy is good. treestar Jan 2015 #110

The macro is good. WillTwain Jan 2015 #119

Clinton abandon Clintonomics? mmonk Jan 2015 #112

Sort of like Ayn Rand joining a union. WillTwain Jan 2015 #114

LOL mmonk Jan 2015 #117

Let's get real ....... She'll run as a populist, just like Obama did....... marmar Jan 2015 #116

Sad Truth and many DUers will rush to support their own assassin. WillTwain Jan 2015 #122

thank up so much for saving us Will. trumad Jan 2015 #130

You are very welcome. WillTwain Jan 2015 #132

Doom and gloom. YAWN! And babylonsister Jan 2015 #134

You are too brilliant to mix with commoners. WillTwain Jan 2015 #135

It is Trumka's help she needs. I am sure you get that. WillTwain Jan 2015 #137

Are you pro-union? WillTwain Jan 2015 #142

Do you mean that "surging", "roaring" economy babylonsister Jan 2015 #136

Where do you get this stuff? Tell me when I said that was not good news. WillTwain Jan 2015 #138

You are aware that Wall Street and Main Street are not connected - no? WillTwain Jan 2015 #139

Babs how about comment 140? Another yawn like Trumka's warning? WillTwain Jan 2015 #141

It doesn't matter what Hillary says Oilwellian Jan 2015 #140

Some people have short memories. Union membership has been in decline and I am very sorry Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #144

Trumka is betting that he still has enough muscle to swing this election. Without unions dems are in WillTwain Jan 2015 #145

I am a union member in retirement, give a lot of credit to unions, was a job steward for years, took Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #146

We all owe much to unions. WillTwain Jan 2015 #147

The unions worked hard for everyone to have minimun wage increases and so many issues which Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #148

I just watched "Matewan" what a great union movie. WillTwain Jan 2015 #149