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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2015, 05:00 PM Jan 2015

Arne asked a pathetic question. He got way more responses than he expected. [View all]

I bet he wishes he had phrased his words differently.

From the Washington Post:

Arne Duncan asks ‘what if?’ Here’s the response.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan tweeted this to his followers on Dec. 30:

What if every district committed both to identifying what made their 5 best schools successful & providing those opps to all their students?

— Arne Duncan (@arneduncan) December 30, 2014

What followed on Twitter in reaction to that tweet was probably not what he had hoped to see. Critics sent some of their own “what if” thoughts to Duncan #whatif. Here’s a sampling:

#Whatif teachers were respected rather than disparaged by this country’s wealthy and elite — Randi Weingarten (@rweingarten) December 31, 2014

#WhatIf the public realized that our @usedgov has plenty of money to properly fund schools but they choose to channel $ to corps instead? — TeacherReality (@TeacherReality) December 31, 2014

... #WhatIf Every family & student boycotted @arneduncan ‘s high-stakes testing & we moved to a well-rounded education w/ authentic assessment. — Chris Cerrone (@Stoptesting15) December 31, 2014


Here's my own #what if:

As teacher was told to start teaching where the child is and take him as far as he can go. #whatif we did that now? @arneduncan #education


And another one or two from that #whatif twitter page:

Erin Rafferty Warner ‏@Teachercat2 13m13 minutes ago

#whatif all the proud "rotten apples" rose up and fired @arneduncan? @BadassTeachersA @DianeRavitch

ProgTeacherCat! and 5 others retweeted
TeacherReality ‏@TeacherReality Dec 31

#WhatIf the American public finally realized that Duncan's #edreform is a complete fraud full of moving cut scores, subpar tests, curriculum
0 replies 28 retweets 13 favorites


What if Arne Duncan and President Obama read the Politico article saying the Republicans may slash the number of federally required tests.

“We are actively exploring the question of whether the federal mandate on annual tests is warranted,” one GOP aide said. The goal is to give states more flexibility in how they track student progress, report those results to the public and hold schools accountable for all kids.

A bipartisan bill gaining momentum among lawmakers would give states grants to audit their testing regimes — and weed out unnecessary exams.

“Annual statewide assessments are critical to ensuring that all students are held to the same high standards and parents, teachers and communities have the information they need about how their children are doing every year,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan said when the bill was introduced. “However, in many places, the amount of testing that is redundant or simply not helpful for instruction has become a real problem.”

While Duncan supports that bill, he and President Barack Obama oppose ending the annual testing requirements in NCLB, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2002. They argue that the yearly tests are vital for assessing student progress and holding schools accountable for making sure every child advances.


What if Arne admitted that the reason for all the overtesting is his own policy.

What if we were finally honest about the harm being done to public schools by corporations determined to get richer.
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What if they took all the money they put into testing and put it into the classroom instead? world wide wally Jan 2015 #1
Good one. madfloridian Jan 2015 #2
Win. blackspade Jan 2015 #65
Just tweeted that on his Twitter feed! grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #67
Whatif our textbooks hootinholler Jan 2015 #3
Another good one. madfloridian Jan 2015 #4
"WhatIf the President would fire your ass and get someone decent in the job." rhett o rick Jan 2015 #5
Oh yeh! madfloridian Jan 2015 #6
What if he actually paid attention to what people told him... daleanime Jan 2015 #7
Wouldn't that be great? madfloridian Jan 2015 #22
What if teachers were paid as much as cops? fbc Jan 2015 #8
What if teachers were paid as much as ..... baseball players AlbertCat Jan 2015 #16
Who would pay that salary? oberliner Jan 2015 #24
given number of teachers ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2015 #64
What if what was relevant in the "60s" was more relevant today? Cerridwen Jan 2015 #9
And my personal favorite: What if...... lastlib Jan 2015 #10
That's the best! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #12
+1 The best BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #18
The really big questions. cilla4progress Jan 2015 #38
Money is not always the answer oberliner Jan 2015 #25
The military needs some reforms, too gratuitous Jan 2015 #32
Fair enough oberliner Jan 2015 #33
Kicked Enthusiast Jan 2015 #11
K and R bigwillq Jan 2015 #13
knr, madfloridian! chervilant Jan 2015 #14
What if.... AlbertCat Jan 2015 #15
That's not true at all. hunter Jan 2015 #47
Failing just never really helped me understand algebra. Took algebra 100 3 Ed Suspicious Jan 2015 #52
What if.......... MyOwnPeace Jan 2015 #17
What if Democrats supported education like they're supposed to? BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #19
Why does the President not send his children to public school? oberliner Jan 2015 #27
I think every parent should have the choice of sending their children to the best school BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #40
Most can't afford to do that though oberliner Jan 2015 #49
That's the point BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #62
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Jan 2015 #28
Which leads to: What if we voted based on what's good for our country FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #60
Unfortunately, in 2008, people thought they were voting for a pro-education Democrat BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #63
But long before 2012, we knew better FiveGoodMen Jan 2015 #68
I hope he is buried by what ifs LWolf Jan 2015 #20
..... madfloridian Jan 2015 #21
Why then I'd start looking for flaming swords, Last Trumps Demeter Jan 2015 #23
Those are wonderful responses... truedelphi Jan 2015 #26
Twitter has a very very strong bunch of outspoken teachers. madfloridian Jan 2015 #42
What if... Skrups Jan 2015 #29
+1 Euphoria Jan 2015 #31
Shoot, I missed the fun. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #30
Kick FloriTexan Jan 2015 #34
What if schools tested for creativity rather than conformity? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #35
+1 lunasun Jan 2015 #37
+1 liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #74
What is opps? Rex Jan 2015 #36
Twitter has a character limit Egnever Jan 2015 #45
Well he looks like a moron that cannot spell. Rex Jan 2015 #46
k&r... spanone Jan 2015 #39
i hope that none of the perspective democratic Presidential candidates support or plan to continue CentralMass Jan 2015 #41
What if Democrats in Congress and White House stopped behaving like wannabe Republicans... whereisjustice Jan 2015 #43
Best one yet. madfloridian Jan 2015 #44
What if we took education out of the federal domain entirely? Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #48
I see the usual suspects carrying water for Republicans Android3.14 Jan 2015 #50
lolololol! So, who appointed Arne Duncan and who has the power to fire him? Or is Obama too weak to whereisjustice Jan 2015 #56
+100 NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #57
This will be one of Obama's biggest and saddest failures. madfloridian Jan 2015 #61
I see the usual cheering for whatever Obama does regardless of principle Jakes Progress Jan 2015 #72
Ah, the arrogance of the uninformed Android3.14 Jan 2015 #73
Nice duck. The arrogance of the self-absorbed. Jakes Progress Jan 2015 #75
What if textbook companies wrote curriculum that actually works!? Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #51
The 'everything for profit' model & the greedheads are going to ruin the entire planet. -nt CrispyQ Jan 2015 #53
What if we had a president who paid attention to what his appointee is doing? Jakes Progress Jan 2015 #54
What if every kid in the USA turned out to be... Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #55
What if Arne hadn't ended education in favor of enriching Bush's Corporate sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #58
What if the federal government made it a priority to provide each child with a quality education? Octafish Jan 2015 #59
You make a good point. madfloridian Jan 2015 #66
Ca. 1987 Octafish Jan 2015 #70
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #69
I can't believe how incredibly depressing it is that Republicans are ahead of the Democrats on this liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #71
Not a what if but a why shouldn't left is right Jan 2015 #76
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