I wonder - if a woman were elected the next president - if we would see the abuse of women

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20. I think it's more "we should prepare for that fight if it happens"

The same way that electing the current president was a move in the right direction on racial issues, even if it caused a big chunk of the more backwards parts of society to go completely ballistic. The result's been spectacularly ugly at times; it's also gotten people confronting the scope and depth of contemporary racism in a much blunter way than we'd been seeing before 2008, to say the least.

If a woman's elected as president, a slightly different backwards part of society will go completely ballistic (much as they have been the last few years on other issues). It's just going to happen, in a society where major news networks release "advice guides" to women in Anno Domini two thousand fif-fucking-teen that say outright that a man's infidelity can only be the fault of women.

Is expecting that a good enough reason on its own not to vote for a women? Of course not, not least because witholding a vote for that reason alone is exactly the sort of thing those backwards idiots want to achieve in the first place. I like seeing those types challenged and thwarted, and if their picking a fight on our terms lets some of that happen, then there we go.