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In reply to the discussion: CIA admits to being responsible for at least half of UFO sightings in the 50s and 60s [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)348. No 'Conspiracy Theorist.' Stanton Friedman is a good man, a scientist.
Worked in nuclear aircraft propulsion for GE, then took up his life's calling.
Science? Fiction?
For 41 years Stanton Friedman, SB'55, SM'56, has traveled the world with a simple message: UFOs are real.
BY LYDIALYLE GIBSON | UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO MAGAZINESEPTOCT/11
The kid knew his teacher was wrong. And looking back, there was never really a chance that he would let it go. It was the middle of the school year, 1943, and Mrs. Rose Gutkin was giving her fifth graders in Linden, New Jersey, an astronomy lesson: the sun, she explained, remains motionless, and all the planets orbit around it. But Stanton Friedman had just read in his encyclopedia that the whole solar system, including the sun, orbits the center of the galaxy. "At 12 miles a second," he says. "That impressed the heck out of me. I mean, that's fast."
So Friedman raised his hand, corrected his teacher, and got a dressing-down. The next day he brought the encyclopedia to school. "And she reluctantly agreed that, well, maybe that's the way it was."
Almost seven decades later, Friedman, SB'55, SM'56, still tells this storyin vivid, exuberant detailto give people a sense of who he is: a methodical researcher, a steadfast debater, an investigator, a scholar. A scientist.
He's gotten used to proving his qualifications, convincing people that he's serious and, occasionally, that he's sane. Since 1970 Friedman, who half a lifetime ago worked as a nuclear physicist with a government security clearance, has been a full-time ufologistthat is, someone who studies unidentified flying objects. In national archives and presidential libraries, Friedman pores over declassified documents and scientific reports on UFO sightings and unexplained aerial events. At times his job is not unlike detective work: tracking down witnesses and collecting their testimony, chasing leads that turn up in his reading or that come to him, as they sometimes do, from someone confiding a name or a place or a piece of evidence. Friedman claims to be the "first civilian investigator" at Roswell, New Mexico, where many people believe that in July 1947 a spaceship crashed in the desert. Indeed, it was largely Friedman's digging, starting in the late 1970s, that brought widespread attention to Roswell, an incident that had been all but forgotten.
His books have titles like Flying Saucers and Science: A Scientist Investigates the Mysteries of UFOs and Crash at Corona: The US Military Retrieval and Cover-Up of a UFO. His television appearances are myriadUnsolved Mysteries, History Channel documentaries, network interviews on Nightline and CBS Sunday Morning. Friedman was a guest on three Larry King Live shows dedicated to UFOs, where he sat shoulder to shoulder with disbelievers and witnesses, wearing his usual dark suit and red pocket square, his wild wiry eyebrows flashing above excitable green eyes. "Physical trace cases, radar variable sightingsevidence!" he boomed during a 2007 show, squalling with UFO skeptic Michael Shermer. "You don't talk about evidence!"
But the cornerstone of Friedman's career is something much simpler: a series of slides and a stack of lecture notes. He spends months every year traveling to classrooms, conference halls, and auditoriums around the world, giving a lecture called "Flying Saucers ARE Real." The evidence is overwhelming, he says, that the planet is being visited by extraterrestrials, and that the US government is covering it up. And he'll debate anyone, anywhere, who argues otherwise.
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http://mag.uchicago.edu/science-medicine/science-fiction
So when Klass called Stanton Friedman anything less than a scientist, or you call him a "Conspiracy Theorist," it is a way of demeaning, if not defaming, him.
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CIA admits to being responsible for at least half of UFO sightings in the 50s and 60s [View all]
zappaman
Dec 2014
OP
That's what they said to Heflin and about everyone else brave enough to step forward.
Octafish
Dec 2014
#19
I had something like that happen years ago. A friend and I were walking into a
RKP5637
Dec 2014
#158
So, why the big need to denigrate me for expressing an interest in the subject, zappaman?
Octafish
Dec 2014
#55
Sorry Brad but I'm not angry and you're not answering simple yes or no questions.
zappaman
Dec 2014
#114
No it's called a discussion. I even answered first to show you how it's gone.
zappaman
Dec 2014
#122
But this ignores the undoubted fact that space aliens are not visiting Earth.
longship
Jan 2015
#375
So your error smearing me is the only thing worth putting into your DU Journal?
Octafish
Jan 2015
#377
I have never seen someone online as misguided as you are on so many topics......
Logical
Dec 2014
#37
Why the need to smear, zappaman? I wrote what the science and witnesses reported.
Octafish
Jan 2015
#379
So you can disavow religious kooks but I must believe UFO kooks? Done with you! Pathetic. nt
Logical
Dec 2014
#100
So I did some research and found evidence that there was no General Bruno Lemoine in the Air Force
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#240
I'll see your 10 guys and raise you the 1000s who don't think we are being visited by aliens. n/t
zappaman
Dec 2014
#48
you would think guys who think the BFEE controls everything would be thrilled to know the CIA
zappaman
Dec 2014
#78
You do realize that Sagan focused much of his research on the search for extra-terrestrial life?
Bjorn Against
Dec 2014
#103
Please explain to me how the people on your list are more reputable than Sagan
Bjorn Against
Dec 2014
#139
The point is you are claiming the book lacks data when you don't even know what is in it
Bjorn Against
Dec 2014
#177
Yeah, I am pretty convinced he does not know anything about the people on his list
Bjorn Against
Dec 2014
#227
I found a Wikipedia page that is supposed to list all the Generals who served in the US Air Force
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#238
It appears that not only Wikipedia forgot to mention him, the Air Force did as well
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#241
If you don't want to read his book then you can read his Wikipedia entry
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#260
The link actually says more than just that and the book says even more yet
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#273
I think that pointing out there is no background info on any of your sources...
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#303
Because a whole bunch of seemingly fake people with fake credentials signed it.
zappaman
Jan 2015
#295
There were many people with impressive credentials telling us Saddam had WMDs as well
Bjorn Against
Dec 2014
#51
well then perhaps you can tell me the expertise of the guys who signed off on the Cometa Report?
zappaman
Dec 2014
#194
Obviously, the aliens use their cloaking device to hide from the ubiquitous cameras.
arcane1
Dec 2014
#3
Believe me, there are many scientists who would love to write a peer reviewed article
Bjorn Against
Dec 2014
#31
Because making fun of those exposing America's fascist enemies is its own reward.
Octafish
Dec 2014
#49
I've never seen Sid or anyone else defending the Bushes. Don't you ever get tired of that smear?
zappaman
Dec 2014
#53
What's the word when you post things that have nothing to do with the question?
zappaman
Dec 2014
#218
No, the OP is about the CIA admitting to being responsible for many UFO sightings.
zappaman
Dec 2014
#220
A line from Shakespeare's "King Lear" comes to mind: "Like flies to wanton boys are
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#116
Look, I believe that life is probably pretty abundant in the Universe.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2014
#83
Oh, I didn't say that the quantum overmind doesn't communicate via the trans-psychedelic aethernet
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2014
#94
The rest, in a shocking twist, were the fault of the Agricultural Research Service. (nt)
Posteritatis
Dec 2014
#191
And they are responsible for 100% of the anal probing incidents during that time.
Kaleva
Dec 2014
#23
They waited to start on the anal probings until Bush was President. See the
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#120
I find it incredulous that anyone could believe that humans are the only intelligent
panader0
Dec 2014
#93
"Human intelligence," like its close sibiling "military intelligence," is almost
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#127
While you're at it, Flannery O'Connor would also repay your efforts. Also, the 19th-century
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#132
If you can believe it, I just ordered Welty on Amazon (?) and they said "people who ordered
panader0
Dec 2014
#137
You will not be sorry. I'd also like to put in a pitch for one of my old
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#143
Carl Sagan's name has been invoked here. Carl was definitely a skeptic; but........
LongTomH
Dec 2014
#99
A few of the problems we have, regarding the chance in being visited by other beings.
BlueJazz
Dec 2014
#125
Awesome stuff. In return I'll leave you with a passage from Dickens' "Great Expectations," where
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#148
Frankly, at this point, I don't believe a damn thing the CIA is saying about any subject.
BeanMusical
Dec 2014
#175
I think CIA agents should do their jobs and stop going on "UFO sightings"
Jeffersons Ghost
Jan 2015
#270
The Phoenix lights where everyone sees what is clearly flares, is not the part
randys1
Jan 2015
#308
Every eye witness described it as the size of a football field or bigger, as I recall
randys1
Jan 2015
#322
You would need to watch one of the specials about the night, before the 10PM mass sighting of
randys1
Jan 2015
#332
The same night of the PHoenix lights, I have seen no less than 3 different one hour shows on tv
randys1
Jan 2015
#335
Yeah, that year, sorry...So basically they didnt see what they said they saw, some of them very
randys1
Jan 2015
#341
When do they "admit to being responsible" for murder, torture, and other assorted crimes?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2015
#320
Damn--I was on the mandatory holiday leave for the agency I work for, and I miss this thread?
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#378
I've been found out.....you see, my pro-Democratic President stance on a pro-Democratic
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#381