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hfojvt

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59. really? And what about the rich?

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:48 AM

Jan 2015

Not the ultra-rich, but just the rich. They stole it from other people? Or inherited it? Really?

Even look at the ultra rich. Are all these people engaging in great crimes?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/seankilachand/2012/09/20/the-forbes-400-hall-of-fame-36-members-of-our-debut-issue-still-in-ranks/

What are the great crimes of George Lucas? Worth $100 million in 1982, 30 years later is worth $3.1 billion more? Why? Because he made Mooby dolls from materials known to be toxic?

Speaking of Mooby, Ben Affleck is now worth $75 million. What was his great crime? Was Forces of Nature really THAT bad?

Is $75 million somehow NOT "really rich"?

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I have some really bad news about your family tree... [View all] Kurska Jan 2015 OP

I think about this when I have a chance to sit at the beach and watch oldandhappy Jan 2015 #1

... Kurska Jan 2015 #2

perfect! oldandhappy Jan 2015 #5

No one can Aerows Jan 2015 #16

Or on the other hand, every drop of water we drink has at one time Cleita Jan 2015 #27

My friend pointed out that we are all drinking "dinosaur pee." Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #52

I think he's right though if the scientists who postulated this are right. Cleita Jan 2015 #56

River of Time seveneyes Jan 2015 #105

Trilobite piss. alfredo Jan 2015 #41

I'd hate to think I'm related to everyone when I have a chance to sit at the beach and watch. rug Jan 2015 #43

Well rug, JimDandy Jan 2015 #104

Being of Eastern European descent and having B-neg blood type randr Jan 2015 #77

I have WORSE NEWS about family trees uhnope Jan 2015 #94

The DNA tests can help figure out from where your family came. alfredo Jan 2015 #110

Perhaps, but YOURS owned slaves, Kurska. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #3

Unpossible Kurska Jan 2015 #6

Hey, with all these crackers OWNING slaves, someone had to BE slaves. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #7

American Slavery? Mine were in Russia at the time. Kurska Jan 2015 #15

Interesting Thing I Read Leith Jan 2015 #46

Mostly Southern/South-Eastern. Igel Jan 2015 #53

Do serfs count? Retrograde Jan 2015 #19

Something else a lot of our ancestors Boreal Jan 2015 #37

Mine were just boring shenmue Jan 2015 #12

We must be related ashling Jan 2015 #40

I think about this from time to time. bravenak Jan 2015 #4

Yep, we are StarStuff. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #8

+1 Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #11

We Are Only Stardust Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #100

I knew it! shenmue Jan 2015 #9

Individuals are generally only high, mighty and pure in their own heads, many have RKP5637 Jan 2015 #10

I always have to laugh pipi_k Jan 2015 #21

That, is a very varied ancestry! RKP5637 Jan 2015 #26

It does seem pretty varied pipi_k Jan 2015 #80

I've been thinking of doing that. I know everyone is from England and Scotland, well, RKP5637 Jan 2015 #81

If my last name is a clue, mine were lowly kitchen workers, bakers Cleita Jan 2015 #28

Royals and nobility were also highly inbred vlyons Jan 2015 #90

It seems Prince Charlie would be an example your belief. Cleita Jan 2015 #93

I was thinking of Charles II of Spain, mentally retarded and epileptic. Also disfigured. vlyons Jan 2015 #95

Kaiser Wilhelm's grandparents were first cousins Freddie Jan 2015 #107

My Ancestors Are Mostly of Hungarian Descent Dirty Socialist Jan 2015 #13

Mine were Norwegians. Vikings. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #18

Thanks to all that activity, it's likely I'm a distant relative on the Irish side. Red hair, y'know Hekate Jan 2015 #32

Viking ancestry here, too. grasswire Jan 2015 #36

Oh thank God, I thought you were going to say PumpkinAle Jan 2015 #14

We all have a choice Aerows Jan 2015 #17

Very well said malaise Jan 2015 #72

The real question is whether you're still profiting from that raping and looting starroute Jan 2015 #20

I don't know what such a person is supposed to do about it. Kurska Jan 2015 #23

Simply be aware of the source, and of the benefit. kwassa Jan 2015 #24

That's not how it works starroute Jan 2015 #38

really? And what about the rich? hfojvt Jan 2015 #59

In a world run by billionaires, $75 million is absolutely not "really rich" starroute Jan 2015 #62

did the Koch brothers really spent $100 million? hfojvt Jan 2015 #91

While I agree with your point, that's a serious dance you just went through. Calista241 Jan 2015 #97

I guess I could be hfojvt Jan 2015 #112

that's the point that so many posters here want to ignore. funny stuff. easier to talk about NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #49

turns out that "almost no one" is about 30 million people bhikkhu Jan 2015 #63

how many of those 30 mill can trace their ancestry to genghis? now, how many can trace their NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #64

Jenjis... 1/200. YOU do the math. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #70

It isn't about tracing your ancestry -- it's about inherited money and power starroute Jan 2015 #75

Why is her plight any worse than that of any of others living in poverty? LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #83

We tend to have a biased data set. Igel Jan 2015 #61

+ infinity CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #65

Opium into China? THERE'S a reparations nightmare... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #68

All in all, the one we are responsible for is ourselves, I am not responsible for decisions of other Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #22

I have seen a my family tree Kalidurga Jan 2015 #25

Yah, well that great grand uncle of my sister's husband's cousin was not a criminal. 1monster Jan 2015 #29

I am decended from my father and my mother indivisibleman Jan 2015 #30

Bryson Thespian2 Jan 2015 #31

I also have a relative who was a total asshole at times indivisibleman Jan 2015 #33

and just wait 'till you hear what time travelers say about Mitochondrial Eve herself MisterP Jan 2015 #34

It's silly to be proud or ashamed LuvNewcastle Jan 2015 #35

I know who some of mine were Warpy Jan 2015 #39

now that you put it that way Ramses Jan 2015 #42

Mine weren't slave owners, we just killed Thomas a Becket. sir pball Jan 2015 #44

My sister gave me a prepaid DNA test for Christmas. I already know some of my alfredo Jan 2015 #45

Paul McCartney, is that you? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #57

It's better than not getting there. alfredo Jan 2015 #74

Better than the alternative. alfredo Jan 2015 #111

I just found that my mother's family alfredo Jan 2015 #96

...as long as I'm not related to Benedict Cumberbatch. cyberswede Jan 2015 #47

I'm pretty sure I have to pay reparations to myself (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #48

I Come from Irish and German Peasant Stock Leith Jan 2015 #50

I may be related to a spree killer, actually! rusty fender Jan 2015 #51

I never cared to find out about my ancesters or my DNA Hoppy Jan 2015 #54

I never cared to find out about my ancesters or my DNA Hoppy Jan 2015 #55

According to Ancestry.com LiberalElite Jan 2015 #58

Oak? 1step Jan 2015 #60

I just canceled a trial at ancestry.com ecstatic Jan 2015 #66

The HELL you say! Kevin Bacon and I are BOTH descended from slave traders? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #67

not me olddots Jan 2015 #69

What matters is not from whom you are descended, but what is in your mind today. vlyons Jan 2015 #71

Exactly this. ladyVet Jan 2015 #79

My foreparents are from India and Brahmins did not akbacchus_BC Jan 2015 #73

our tree contains one of the first crusaders, elehhhhna Jan 2015 #76

That's actually pretty amazing LittleBlue Jan 2015 #88

it is interesting to remind the kids who their ancestors were... elehhhhna Jan 2015 #92

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I'm first generation here. cwydro Jan 2015 #82

I'm pretty sure I have a lot of atoms formerly belonging to a hog. KentuckyWoman Jan 2015 #84

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For how many generations must the sins of the fathers be MineralMan Jan 2015 #89

Can we agree that the land of the indigenous peoples was stolen and that the KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #98

Of course we can agree on those things. They are facts. MineralMan Jan 2015 #99

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Knot theory seveneyes Jan 2015 #102

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