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2. If we want govt to represent we the people...

Reply to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:03 AM

Jan 2015

Then we the people need to represent govt. Start by running for local offices.

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I read, in another thread, the following statement ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 OP

Replying to avoid jurying the inevitable alerts below (nt) Recursion Jan 2015 #1

hah! "recusion"! unblock Jan 2015 #93

*snort* Recursion Jan 2015 #115

If we want govt to represent we the people... JaneyVee Jan 2015 #2

Who has the backing Sick_of_TP Jan 2015 #30

Kochs don't fund ALL local candidates. MH1 Jan 2015 #125

Been there, done that, and therefore can weigh in... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #74

Good point, and if someone says they wont vote, please tell me at least you are running randys1 Jan 2015 #77

Those who call for mass revolt generally do not consider the MineralMan Jan 2015 #3

Bingo! Add to this that for any 'revolution' to succeed, a base of at least 3-5% of KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #11

Oh, do you mean "Populists"? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #13

It's a bit early this a.m. and I'm still working on my first cup of joe, but I don't KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #15

Yeah, caffeine is a lifeline here too Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #17

Ah, no offense taken. (I thought maybe I'd missed some crucial contextual clue.) The historical KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #20

Semantics linguistics tomato tamato Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #24

Before I forget about this post, let me tell you I am a fan now...you wrote that so well randys1 Jan 2015 #59

Interessting observation ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #94

Well, I think the leaders of the original Black Panther Party (the Socialists Huey Newton, Bobby KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #108

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #116

But the unanswered question continues to be ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #18

Look to history. Downwinder Jan 2015 #22

Definitely a valid consideration. An Italian social theorist named Pareto enunciated just KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #26

When the Revolutionary War began in 1776, the declared war. Savannahmann Jan 2015 #41

If you want the military to allow the revolution, you need to convince a lot of them muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #86

+1 n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #98

Really? Savannahmann Jan 2015 #132

You seem to think the nation would revolt with 1 purpose in mind, but you haven't a purpose in mind muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #138

You are making up a false argument Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #61

There are no good answers to your questions, frankly. MineralMan Jan 2015 #110

Bingo! And I would add... PosterChild Jan 2015 #99

Bingo! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #106

"raising ineffectiveness to an art-form" LOL - Well said. (nt) PosterChild Jan 2015 #109

Seconded. freshwest Jan 2015 #146

Russell Brand is wrong about this. The electoral system is what needs to be done away. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #4

Do you mean the 'electoral college' needs to be done away with? - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #39

yes, my bad. not enough room in the subjectline ... shorthand. but, yes, the ec. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #68

Why doesn't the Electoral college work for us? imthevicar Jan 2015 #80

Russel Brand after all is part of the 1% randr Jan 2015 #5

Good point, while I appreciate people like him making comments that might wake people randys1 Jan 2015 #64

That's some pretty cheap talk about RusseLL Brand, too... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #83

I have nothing against people of means randr Jan 2015 #127

That assumes that voting is the only chance of bettering your life... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #147

On the topic of voting? We need to start fighting for voting rights AGAIN. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #6

+1 greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #9

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #14

Russel Brand is advocating personal revolution Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #69

Which would imply that voting actually still is important, wouldnt it randys1 Jan 2015 #66

I'll stick with voting. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #7

Not voting accomplishes nothing but allowing marym625 Jan 2015 #8

The idea is nonsense gwheezie Jan 2015 #10

What does it mean to you? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #12

This being ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #21

So you are asking DU memebers if they belive in voting? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #32

I am asking if DUers think abandoning the electoral process ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #60

Actually you are tying the "voting" issue to Russle Brands comments Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #65

You seem to be the ONLY one making that accusation/assertion ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #70

You making this personal? Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #81

Ahhh. The escalation! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #87

Mass Revolt? Umm.... PosterChild Jan 2015 #90

Perhaps you posted this to an incorrect comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #96

I know that from your previous posts.... PosterChild Jan 2015 #107

Ahhh, Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #114

You wanted a discription of the world after. The rest of the world would move on. In the USA jwirr Jan 2015 #16

That is my take on what will happen ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #25

Step away from the Tee Vee, for your own mental health Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #34

Do you doubt that if jwirr's vision ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #49

You are using Russel Brand's comments Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #73

You've misspelled Russell Brand's name in three different ways. MineralMan Jan 2015 #111

I think change will come but this way will not bring it about. Actually more involvement is what we jwirr Jan 2015 #46

Hey, 1SBM� Look at this for an alternative point on what humans might do... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #79

Thanks! I remember that episode. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #82

This is what's likely to happen anyway, revolution or none. . . Triana Jan 2015 #36

Agreed. jwirr Jan 2015 #48

You are assuming that the revolution would be unsuccessful, thereby allowing Republicans KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #43

I do not think this will really happen but it could. Especially if we think that not voting is a way jwirr Jan 2015 #50

I apologize if I seem a bit dense. I don't follow celebrity culture too closely and thus I may have KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #54

That is how I understood it. jwirr Jan 2015 #55

Politics (and power) abhors a vacuum and will rush to fill it. Not voting is the KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #88

I agree. This is one of the issues that I have often gotten into trouble about here on DU because I jwirr Jan 2015 #103

Cosmic Kitten, has been arguing, repeatedly, that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #112

Okay, since we cannot agree on what Russell Brand is saying I went outside DU and googled. jwirr Jan 2015 #117

So the resident Brand spokesman is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #121

From what I read. He has reasons for his philosophy but I just do not agree with him. GOTV. jwirr Jan 2015 #122

K & R, good post on the outcomes of not voting and allowing the GOP to rule. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #44

Completely true. The Rs have been using abortion, gay rights, etc. to control the vote for years now jwirr Jan 2015 #53

Bravo! mcar Jan 2015 #113

My sig line says it for me TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #19

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #29

I agree with the distrust ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #35

And that thread was either started by a Rove plant or a liberal who hasnt thought things randys1 Jan 2015 #71

This whole thread is so helpful to me... OneGrassRoot Jan 2015 #130

The vast, vast majority of those ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #134

What an excellent point. OneGrassRoot Jan 2015 #135

Thank you for listening (and HEARING) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #136

Well, many do minimize it... OneGrassRoot Jan 2015 #142

If I can offer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #145

Yes and no. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #23

Yes, that's my take a "general strike" Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #37

Sorry- in a general strike, I get up and go to work just like I do every other day NBachers Jan 2015 #119

He is correct. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #27

Not me ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #28

Need to do both.... daleanime Jan 2015 #31

+1 Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #38

Russell Brand is revolting? (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #33

The view that voting does not work is dis-proven by recent history ThoughtCriminal Jan 2015 #40

fuck that noise madokie Jan 2015 #42

All due respect, but voters in '64 chose the peacenik LBJ, only to find KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #51

Well, it survived the block... Atman Jan 2015 #45

Maybe this was a posting by Karl Rove and gang. The GOP is trying every way possible to keep Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #47

The current system should be evolved or replaced, not simply abandoned whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #52

Our Democracy is still in fine shape rock Jan 2015 #56

Would we? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #75

There are several DUer who think voting is a waste of time... SidDithers Jan 2015 #57

Well Sid whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #63

Complaining about politicians is a wast of time... Cosmic Kitten Jan 2015 #76

+100 !!! Thanks! (nt) PosterChild Jan 2015 #84

people are always calling for revolution on the internet. but it doesn't mean anything JI7 Jan 2015 #58

a general strike would be the best approach IMO nt G_j Jan 2015 #62

Because allowing republicans, even, a single election cycle ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #124

it shouldn't be about the left, it should be the the about the 99%. G_j Jan 2015 #128

lol - beacuse, you know, a populist like FDR or Truman or Eisenhower or Kennedy whereisjustice Jan 2015 #67

I don't agree at all. I think we need to fix what's broken about the voting process. I thnk that DesertDiamond Jan 2015 #72

Other than one poster, who did a good job answering your question, nobody else has... randys1 Jan 2015 #78

I'm halfway there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #85

k&r for later. Looks like an interesting discussion...n/t ms liberty Jan 2015 #89

The revolt I hope to see, if/when needed, looks somewhat like CaptainTruth Jan 2015 #91

At least in short-run (couple of years), things would likely be worse for "revolters" and others. Hoyt Jan 2015 #92

I think not voting is daft, but I live in Oregon, Brand is British and can comment away on his own Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #95

Russell Brand and his fellow armchair revolutionaries are some of the biggest tools on the geek tragedy Jan 2015 #97

He's a bullshit artist, there's nothing new about his brand of bullshit. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #129

I'm one who believes in half of it, the massive revolt. Cleita Jan 2015 #100

Good point, there are ways to "revolt" beyond mass chaos and mayhem. Hoyt Jan 2015 #105

Yes, but you have to have the majority of the population revolt with you. Cleita Jan 2015 #118

It's easy to complain Generic Brad Jan 2015 #101

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #126

Abandoning the vote will not be effective. Maedhros Jan 2015 #102

Does voting matter? Epiphany4z Jan 2015 #104

Let Russell Brand give away 100% of his wealth, with no prospect of making it back in big chunks. Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #120

Doesn't George Carlin says basically the same thing? nt Edim Jan 2015 #123

He's dead. So he doesn't "says" anything any more. MineralMan Jan 2015 #131

I think Carlin made a lot of good (and funny) observations ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #139

I loved George Carlin. He had an amazing sense of humor. MineralMan Jan 2015 #141

We he said he didn't vote, because it's meaningless and I agree. Edim Jan 2015 #144

childish. there is also VOTE & REVOLT. pansypoo53219 Jan 2015 #133

I am a Revolutionary Marxist Odin2005 Jan 2015 #137

How about the "mass revolt" of 100% voter turnout? Could we try that first? McCamy Taylor Jan 2015 #140

Yes, sir! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #143

I've been trying to get people to do that for years and years... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #148

Locking this does not meet the SOP for GD Autumn Jan 2015 #149