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Number23

(24,544 posts)
12. Oh, she. Don't you know that racism will go away the SECOND that people just stop talking about it?
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:55 PM
Jan 2015

You "social justice warriors" just need to understand that unless white people can be comfortable economically, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

What good is having "social justice" (respect, tolerance, freedom from racism and oppression) if white people's economic standing is at stake??

I really don't know what to say dumbcat Jan 2015 #1
Some people just can't recognize that it needn't be racist to judge that Vattel Jan 2015 #2
It is racism. bravenak Jan 2015 #3
It is racism handmade34 Jan 2015 #6
Bottom line: You don't know whether Martin attacked Zimmerman. Vattel Jan 2015 #10
Bottom line. bravenak Jan 2015 #15
You should be ashamed for your lack of critical thinking. Vattel Jan 2015 #22
I own critical thinking. That's why i'm nice and friendly. bravenak Jan 2015 #28
Yes, unfairly accusing me of disgusting behavior that I should be ashamed of is nice and friendly. Vattel Jan 2015 #42
I accused you of nothing. bravenak Jan 2015 #43
You said, "It is racism that you are defending. And it is disgusting and you should be ashamed." Vattel Jan 2015 #45
It is racism you are defending. bravenak Jan 2015 #47
Lol, okay. So what I was making up, according to you, Vattel Jan 2015 #52
Exactly. bravenak Jan 2015 #53
You're carrying water for an open racist who stalked and murdered a young man Scootaloo Jan 2015 #140
At least unlike you I don't pretend to know things that I don't know. Vattel Jan 2015 #212
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #241
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #246
So should you Kalidurga Jan 2015 #201
I do acknowledge that. Vattel Jan 2015 #211
You should be ashamed---murder one was clearly called for, and should have been charged. msanthrope Jan 2015 #223
*You* should be ashamed Feral Child Jan 2015 #303
You weren't there. Yet 840high Jan 2015 #124
Thank you for your support. bravenak Jan 2015 #125
The only thing I am sure of is that I don't know whether Martin attacked Zimmerman. Vattel Jan 2015 #210
No argument from me. 840high Jan 2015 #224
I try to look at each of this awful cases without judgment cwydro Jan 2015 #240
He is still pretending to be a cop. bravenak Jan 2015 #245
Back in 2001 cwydro Jan 2015 #250
Wow! That must have been hard to deal with. bravenak Jan 2015 #251
I wish I could do it agan. cwydro Jan 2015 #254
If it ever happens again, you probably will report. bravenak Jan 2015 #259
Do you realize ... dawg Jan 2015 #262
That's sweet. cwydro Jan 2015 #265
Trayvon Martin had the right to self defense Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #16
Apparently you know nothing about the self-defense justification in the law. Vattel Jan 2015 #17
So what evidence do you have to prove Trayvon guilty beyond a reasonable doubt? Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #26
Trayvon wasn't on trial. Zimmerman was. There was Flatulo Jan 2015 #71
And the fact that a person can take away another's right to a fair trial is a grave injustice Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #74
THIS!! tosh Jan 2015 #91
With all due respect, you have no understanding of the concept of self-defense, branford Jan 2015 #156
The system is racist and always has been. bravenak Jan 2015 #157
The system as designed is not racist. branford Jan 2015 #167
The system is racist and was designed as such. bravenak Jan 2015 #169
Smug. Feral Child Jan 2015 #186
No, you are the one that doesn't understand the law Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #161
How can an explanation make someone a racist? Rye Bread Pizza Jan 2015 #163
The system works for whites. bravenak Jan 2015 #171
So explaining how the system works is racist? n/t Rye Bread Pizza Jan 2015 #175
Ignoring the racism inherent in the system is racist. bravenak Jan 2015 #176
And blaming the messenger for the message is silly. n/t Rye Bread Pizza Jan 2015 #178
I blame the messenger for an asinine message. bravenak Jan 2015 #179
You are still confusing understanding with approval. Rye Bread Pizza Jan 2015 #182
He does approve of the system. bravenak Jan 2015 #183
Well said! n/t Spazito Jan 2015 #222
You do realize, that based upon your understanding of the law, Live and Learn Jan 2015 #298
Is it self defense to stalk someone, as the armed Zimmerman did Trayvon? Hekate Jan 2015 #73
How about stalked? What Zimmerman was doing was very close to stalking. Follows him in a car jwirr Jan 2015 #96
There is no crime of "very close to stalking," branford Jan 2015 #147
It WAS unsurprising. bravenak Jan 2015 #148
Absolutely Bravenak Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #154
Exactly. bravenak Jan 2015 #155
We are a nation of laws. branford Jan 2015 #162
Black people live under a racist system. bravenak Jan 2015 #164
"You don't have to live black." JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #220
Arrogant as hell! bravenak Jan 2015 #236
We are a nation of racist laws Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #170
A nation of laws that favor one race. We do not advocate for equal justice. I think it was JFK who jwirr Jan 2015 #230
They gloat Feral Child Jan 2015 #188
They sure do love to gloat about it. bravenak Jan 2015 #189
Of course. Feral Child Jan 2015 #216
I recognize the truth in you last paragraph but states like Fla make laws that can be interpreted jwirr Jan 2015 #226
The whole incident started when Trayvon Martin was walking home from the 7-11 gollygee Jan 2015 #19
Absolutely. All we need to do is take a look at the trivial actions that are seen as having a death jwirr Jan 2015 #234
Care to comment on Eric Garner or Michael Brown..................................................... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #27
The killers of Garner should have been indicted. The level of violence was absurd. Vattel Jan 2015 #40
The racist system of laws that we all lived under have determined their deaths to be justifiable... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #257
You wanna know who was lying? brush Jan 2015 #104
Zimmerman got OUT OF HIS CAR cwydro Jan 2015 #276
Vattel to earth! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #294
If Trayvon Martin had been white, GZ would be on death row in FL right now. notadmblnd Jan 2015 #227
Yes, he sure would! bravenak Jan 2015 #231
I will say it straight out, Zimmerman defenders are a bunch of racist shitstains Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #8
Your little emotional outburst is not the same as offering evidence. Vattel Jan 2015 #14
Well you have offered no evidence to prove Trayvon guilty Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #20
I don't know whether Martin attacked Zimmerman. The evidence is inconclusive. Vattel Jan 2015 #25
So does inconclusive evidence warrant the death penalty? Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #31
Now you are just not making any sense. I am done with this conversation. Vattel Jan 2015 #33
Is it really that complicated of a question? Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #38
That's the problem with making it legal for people like Zimmerman to carry guns, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #60
The problem is people think a gunner's right to kill outweighs every last one of the victim's rights Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #63
"only a racist would believe it is acceptable to shoot down unarmed black people" Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #64
I wish. Feral Child Jan 2015 #190
And you have offered no evidence that Trayvon's death or the trial outcome involved race. nt MadDAsHell Jan 2015 #81
Bullshit, there is centuries of racism that provide plenty of evidence Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #85
Dear CrazyAsHell Feral Child Jan 2015 #191
Best post of the day! bravenak Jan 2015 #195
Thanks, bravenak. Feral Child Jan 2015 #207
Yep. Most of them are. bravenak Jan 2015 #235
Great post and so true!!!! rbrnmw Jan 2015 #208
Thanks, rbrnmw! Feral Child Jan 2015 #214
lol rbrnmw Jan 2015 #215
+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #279
Do you think Zimmerman would've followed a white kid? Union Scribe Jan 2015 #209
"It was about race" MadDAsHell Jan 2015 #218
"there are a lot of good people in this world" WTF? Union Scribe Jan 2015 #221
If Trayvon was white, he would still be alive. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #278
very true rbrnmw Jan 2015 #300
did you miss the jurors obvious racism? So much for the "system bettyellen Jan 2015 #29
When a seemingly credible witness stated that Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #36
It takes a racist mindset to ignore the fact that an innocent teen bettyellen Jan 2015 #39
I think we all, including the jurors, realize that Zimmerman's behavior was despicable. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #41
Nope, some jurors thought GZ had his heart in the right place when he profiled TM for being a bettyellen Jan 2015 #44
Again, I am not defending Zimmerman's behavior. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #49
You refuse to acknowledge the racism in both the trial and the jury room.... bettyellen Jan 2015 #70
OK, if after all that you still believe I am "making excuses for systematic racism", Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #79
White silence to the facts, bettyellen. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #83
Sorry but no rbrnmw Jan 2015 #301
Zimmerman was guilty of murder. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #280
Do you think the witness Jonathan Good was lying? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #282
Yes. Jonathan Good was clearly a liar and a racist. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #286
What evidence is there that Jonathan Good is a racist Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #290
I'm not on trail. I go by my impressions. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #297
I would have seen it differenrly gwheezie Jan 2015 #58
Question? You as a white man I presume? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #78
I would run away as fast as I could, zig-zagging to make me a harder target to hit (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #82
And if you never had that chance to run? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #84
If for some reason I couldn't run, I would probably put my hands up and beg for mercy. (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #88
Well as a white person that probably would work out well for you. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #98
I was actually already aware that there are racist cops out there, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #130
Thank you nye for saying that. I truly thank you. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #136
They *relish* the fact that the jurors were racist. Feral Child Jan 2015 #192
neither is yours Kalidurga Jan 2015 #202
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #238
I agree 100% brush Jan 2015 #118
I don't want to click on that link, but I know you are correct Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #121
EXACTLY! nt brush Jan 2015 #127
+1! I agree with you that Zimmerman defenders are a bunch of racist shitstains. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #275
I don't like your name-calling, cwydro Jan 2015 #277
This is not just about Zimmerman. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #11
How in hell can you say DU is silent? cwydro Jan 2015 #274
Of course there are threads, cwydro. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #281
Sorry if I missed your point. cwydro Jan 2015 #283
Are you actually saying that the zimmerman verdict was correct? brush Jan 2015 #89
It is possible to hold the view that Zimmerman is a despicable racist, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #95
There is a big difference between this case and the OJ case Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #101
Zimmerman did not testify in his trial. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #107
I am not saying he did testify, but his defense was still based on "he had it coming" Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #114
Is it also possible to believe Feral Child Jan 2015 #193
The prosecutor was forced to try an unwinnable case. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #233
Just my opinion, Feral Child Jan 2015 #268
Spot on, but don't expect that to go down well here. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #217
Changing the subject, I see. riqster Jan 2015 #229
Very good job, sheshe Hutzpa Jan 2015 #4
5 things... handmade34 Jan 2015 #5
How does one do #4? oberliner Jan 2015 #13
Stop pretending racism is not racism. bravenak Jan 2015 #23
Education. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #184
"You boys stop talking while I am teaching" oberliner Jan 2015 #213
Calling black men boy stems from slavery and Jim Crow. bravenak Jan 2015 #239
What if the teacher also calls the white students boys? oberliner Jan 2015 #242
Doesn't matter. bravenak Jan 2015 #243
Fascinating oberliner Jan 2015 #244
No problem. bravenak Jan 2015 #247
This. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #314
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #7
Like you cared before. bravenak Jan 2015 #9
Jury results oneshooter Jan 2015 #90
Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #94
Oh, she. Don't you know that racism will go away the SECOND that people just stop talking about it? Number23 Jan 2015 #12
When there are no more poor white people. gollygee Jan 2015 #30
Yes! Get with the program, damnit! Number23 Jan 2015 #37
I see it now! Trickle down social justice! There it is! freshwest Jan 2015 #166
Trickle down justice!! That is a BEYOND perfect summation of too many here Number23 Jan 2015 #180
I was going to respond, but then I remembered PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #204
"the race card" ?? gollygee Jan 2015 #205
gollygee PowerToThePeople Jan 2015 #206
You know what I see here 23? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #56
If "DU is not reality," why do you invest so much time at this site? SMC22307 Jan 2015 #141
You only seem to show up to mock. bravenak Jan 2015 #144
Times like this~ sheshe2 Jan 2015 #145
As President of the Sheshe2 Fan Club, I have to say that your question is out of line. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #149
Thank you Mr President! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #160
It's mindblowing to me how they find their way here. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #165
Such behavior is not the best way to make friends. freshwest Jan 2015 #172
I agree, it's not the best way to make friends. So, I don't see the reasoning behind it. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #181
A 6th sense draws them. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #174
It may not be our business, but it is to our benefit. riqster Jan 2015 #232
Thank you rigster. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #284
"White voices dominate Bay Area protests of racial inequality" Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #18
"don't dominate" doesn't mean "remain silent" gollygee Jan 2015 #24
Sometimes it seems like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #32
I don't see why it's so complicated gollygee Jan 2015 #34
Why is it "taking over"? How often do whites outnumber blacks at a klan march? Always. 7962 Jan 2015 #59
It can be accomplished ChazII Jan 2015 #86
I think turning out in force is good as long as it's for the right reasons. bravenak Jan 2015 #35
Wonder if any of the deniers JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #55
I want to be like you. bravenak Jan 2015 #66
+1. That's my take as well, KMOD Jan 2015 #103
It really shouldn't be that hard to understand. bravenak Jan 2015 #116
Agreed! KMOD Jan 2015 #120
That is exactly what it is AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #46
Do you actually speak out on the issue? KMOD Jan 2015 #129
Sorry to disappoint AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #142
I'm simply asking for your thoughts on the Eric Garner video KMOD Jan 2015 #151
The person you mention AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #143
The person I mention seems very reasonable to me, KMOD Jan 2015 #152
Bullshit! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #173
Why do you confuse domination with participation? Seems like a very easy thing to understand. bettyellen Jan 2015 #48
The issue is that by their very nature, protests of this sort are hard to micro-manage, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #50
Attending and supporting is one thing. bravenak Jan 2015 #51
Do you honestly think people are trying to micro-manage how many of each race attend a protest? Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #54
"They want everyone who will support them regardless of their skin color". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #61
The ones I have been to have been majority white Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #67
Nope. No one said anything about the numbers supporting- just the urge to speak for POC as bettyellen Jan 2015 #68
For too many white people, to "support" *is* to dominate YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #109
If you "listen and do not talk", you are silent. And "silence makes white people racist", Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #122
Who said the only options are to lead or stay silent? bettyellen Jan 2015 #187
The trick is to listen before you talk and Jamastiene Jan 2015 #272
Bravo! Well said, thank you Jamastiene. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #285
the odd thing is there are more white people treestar Jan 2015 #258
There are groups that are largely white that put themselves in front Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #203
K&R Tsiyu Jan 2015 #21
Kick! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #57
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2015 #62
Trayvon Martin was targeted and pursued by predator Zimmerman. He was an innocent child & the loss appalachiablue Jan 2015 #65
End white silence. White silence is why racism continues.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #69
Great post gwheezie Jan 2015 #110
Very well said. YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #111
Thanks, grammy. Number23 Jan 2015 #123
KnR for the necessity of speaking out Hekate Jan 2015 #72
Why criticize people who don't agree with your assumptions? JEFF9K Jan 2015 #75
Are you here to discuss the issue or to discuss SheShe? bravenak Jan 2015 #76
So should people stay silent and not speak out when they feel wronged? Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #80
Extremely questionable reasoning, logic, and assumptions ... JEFF9K Jan 2015 #97
Which is why it is essential that we criticize the racists who lack reasoning and logic. Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #102
Excuse me? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #92
You are kind of assuming that you are smarter than everyone else ... JEFF9K Jan 2015 #99
I think you are projecting. Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #105
Me too. bravenak Jan 2015 #106
That makes ZERO sense. JEFF9K Jan 2015 #113
I did not expect you would be able to understand, I think others can see it however. Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #116
Because you're not listening. Feral Child Jan 2015 #305
Yikes! Great come back~ sheshe2 Jan 2015 #128
Yes, it does. ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #77
so glad i left the lily white burbs. i couldnt stand the small minds. mopinko Jan 2015 #87
This! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #100
no prob she. mopinko Jan 2015 #108
mo~ sheshe2 Jan 2015 #131
Thank goodness cool heads prevail here sometimes...(Jury results) ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #146
I wonder if the wrong headed JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #249
oy vey. mopinko Jan 2015 #306
Here's what bothers me about this.... Adrahil Jan 2015 #302
srsly? that has never happened to me. mopinko Jan 2015 #307
Yup. But like I said... Adrahil Jan 2015 #310
I have hope because of the new leaders rising from these protests gwheezie Jan 2015 #93
Apparently a damned if you do and damned if you dont situation davidn3600 Jan 2015 #112
Silence doesn't make people racist, elleng Jan 2015 #115
Unfortunately, a lot of the work of the 60s/70s racial and social justice movements has been undone YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #133
Yes. elleng Jan 2015 #138
thanks for this thread sheshe2 rbrnmw Jan 2015 #119
Yet we knew they would rdrnmw. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #287
yes they always do rbrnmw Jan 2015 #299
STAND YOUR GROUND IS NOTHING MORE THAN LEGALIZED LYNCHING juxtaposed Jan 2015 #126
"Stand your ground" was not invoked in the Zimmerman case (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #132
NO SHIT DO U FEEL IT SHOULD HAVE juxtaposed Jan 2015 #134
It was invoked in the jury instructions Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #135
.... YoungDemCA Jan 2015 #137
Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #139
Thanks for the article. F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #150
Please Be Careful... WillyT Jan 2015 #153
Why do I need to be carefulk WillyT? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #313
How is your OP, in and of itself, not racist? flvegan Jan 2015 #158
Well saifd and very important. Kath1 Jan 2015 #159
Thanks so very much for this OP. chervilant Jan 2015 #168
Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio Jan 2015 #177
... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #288
to be silent in the face of injustice is to be an accomplice (think Nazi Germany) napkinz Jan 2015 #185
Mahalo for these vital truths from xojane, she.. exactly what Martin Luther King was saying all Cha Jan 2015 #194
Bigotry disguises itself in SO many ways, some get an easier pass. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #196
Thanks, BtA.. I had just changed it when I reread it before.. clicking on your post. Cha Jan 2015 #197
It happens! LOL! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #198
Yes, Indeed! Cha Jan 2015 #199
One might think it would not be controversial on DU, Cha. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #289
While the liberal organizations and unfortunately mmonk Jan 2015 #200
Arriving late to the conversation.. a thought to those posters feeling darned if they do or don't... salin Jan 2015 #219
Awesome post. bravenak Jan 2015 #260
thanks... salin Jan 2015 #271
Excellent OP! Spazito Jan 2015 #225
K&R and bookmarking to return later. n/t OneGrassRoot Jan 2015 #228
I agree with this in part, but have a question whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #237
What part of the OP do you agree with? Spazito Jan 2015 #248
I agree that silence in the face of any social injustice could be regarded as tacit complicity whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #252
In order to equate those killed in war to what the topic of the OP is... Spazito Jan 2015 #255
The OP makes the claim that white silence to injustice suffered by people of color is de facto racism whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #256
I disagree, it is not germane at all... Spazito Jan 2015 #261
How is the OP's singling out whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #263
Well, it might be best, then, to start your own OP on your issue... Spazito Jan 2015 #264
Maybe I should whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #266
A good start would have been to stick to the issue addressed by the OP instead... Spazito Jan 2015 #267
+100 n/t JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #270
Please answer this Op. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #291
Answer it? whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #292
So your silence is your answer? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #293
I'm not silent about this whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #295
Seriously? JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #253
So much worthy of fleshing out here... OneGrassRoot Jan 2015 #269
Thought provoking gwheezie Jan 2015 #273
Take note which two groups (not just white, BTW) DID respond. Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #296
thank you bta for the full script from adl. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #308
Please see my Post #303 Feral Child Jan 2015 #304
I read that! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #309
WOW! Feral Child Jan 2015 #312
Bookmarked for later. Petrushka Jan 2015 #311
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