After A Year Without God, Former Pastor Ryan Bell No Longer Believes

[Orrex]

61. If we were stuck in a general room, I would pursue the matter differently

But since we're in a discussion forum in which participation is entirely voluntary, I don't see it as a problem.
Again, I defer to the Hosts. If the discussion is allowed to continue, then I will continue discussing it.

As for the specific plan, i think it relies on what you mean by a plan specific for that believer. If I were to say "As one of God's chosen God has a plan for me, El Bryanto, but of course nothing for you Orrex" than of course that would be terribly arrogant. If i were to say "God has a plan for all his children - including me and you, than yes that's arrogant in the face of an infinite universe, I suppose - you could certainly paint it that way but I don't know that it's really an issue - the negative side of arrogance is one in which we set ourselves above each other.

Presuming to know the "plan" of an infinite being is tantamount to infinite arrogance, even if one claims to know only a fraction of that infinite plan. Further, presuming to speak on behalf of my role in that plan is equally arrogant.

I see no arrogance in the observation that a finite mind is inadequate to the task of internally proving the existence of the infinite when no other evidence is available. Is it arrogant to observe that a gallon jug is insufficient to contain the Pacific Ocean?

One's tone might be arrogant (see Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens, for example), but when I've been called arrogant on this subject it has usually boiled down to the claim that I am "arrogant" because I don't accept the witness' testimony about the supernatural or the infinite. Also, since I have survived being called "arrogant" to my face many times on this very subject, I'm not greatly concerned that my postings here will damage the faith or psyches of the believers.