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Showing Original Post only (View all)Why I defend NAFTA on DU, in four charts [View all]
First, its positive effect on employment and labor participation:
This charts two things: in blue, the labor participation rate (the percentage of people of working age who are either working or looking for a job), and in maroon, the percentage of those people who have a job. I have marked the formation of NAFTA with a vertical red line. Unemployment fell and labor participation rose. That lasted until the .com crash and the Bush tax cuts. (Note, this cuts off at 2012; the unemployment rate has fallen to 1994 levels and the labor participation rate has staid where it is.
The simple fact is that Ross Perot's giant sucking sound did not happen. More Americans had jobs after NAFTA than before, which leads to my next point, about wages. Maybe the displaced textile workers got lower paying jobs? Nope. They got higher paying jobs:
Second, its positive impact on median income: (Edit, I had said "wages" earlier, which is the next chart)

This chart represents the inflation-adjusted median income in the US. For a reminder of what a "median" is: say there are 100 million employed people in America. Line them all up in order of their income, lowest to highest. Pick the 50 millionth person. Her income is the median wage of the US. It's a measure of what a "typical" American earns. I have, again, marked the formation of NAFTA with a vertical red line.
The "typical" income went up during the NAFTA period until, again, the Bush tax cuts killed the golden goose by making expenses like salaries less attractive than financial investments. It's ticked up a bit since the chart cut off, but we're still in roughly 1997 territory (which, by the way, was not exactly a bad year to be working in America). Bush's disastrous mismanagement of the US economy couldn't undo even half of the wage gains since NAFTA's formation.
Now, inequality went up during that period, people will say. That's true, and I don't care. I care about the absolute standard of living of working Americans, not how that compares to the standard of living of the Walton family. And that absolute standard of living rose remarkably since the passage of NAFTA.
Third, its impact on nonsupervisory wages:

But you'll say, maybe those wages all went to managers and CEOs (CEO salary is part of the "wage" calculation, though bonuses and stock options aren't). But, no. Here's a chart of nonsupervisory wages. over the same period. (Again, NAFTA's formation is marked in red.)
This actually makes things look much better for NAFTA. If you take out supervisory wages, all of the wage damage during the Reagan and Bush I terms is revealed to have been undone, starting exactly at the formation of NAFTA (I'm sure people will be quick to assure me that's totally a coincidence).
Fourth, its impact on poverty, particularly child poverty:

Now, wages, employment, whatever are all great, but they're just means to an end. What matters is reducing poverty, through whatever means that takes.
And, again, NAFTA's results were good, particularly for children. Even the Great Recession couldn't undo all of the increase. And if we restore full SCHIP, CHIP, and SNAP funding to the 1990s levels, we'll see once again a dramatic drop in child poverty.
This is why I defend NAFTA here, because the outcome suggests to me that it was a good idea. More people were working, at higher pay, than before NAFTA. This should be the goal of US trade policy, and I hope we all agree with that. I'm assuming that people have simply bought into Perot's anti-trade rhetoric and just forgotten the actual economic conditions of the late 1990s.
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What? You aren't overly-impressed with a power-point oblique Rah-Rah for TPP? nt
99th_Monkey
Jan 2015
#5
I'm "meh" on the TPP because I think we've already picked the low-hanging fruit there
Recursion
Jan 2015
#10
If we are doing something BLINDLY since no one but the 600 Corporations have been
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#29
Please consider this observation to counter this utter bullshit on NAFTA...
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2015
#123
So, am I wrong that unemployment went down, while median wages went up? (nt)
Recursion
Jan 2015
#124
"We had already been loosing the manufacturing industries by then late 1980's. NAFTA and GATT
pampango
Jan 2015
#168
"We have actually been losing manufacturing jobs since the since the late 1970's"
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#212
I'm not sure what you mean by 'appear to' peak. These are BLS statistics, so I guess it -did-
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#237
Reagan expanded the Carter administration's efforts to decontrol and deregulate the economy.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#289
"Diversified" in inputs or outputs? Because as you point out most of the inputs are going away
Recursion
Jan 2015
#14
The VAT works very well in Germany and Austria. They fund all sorts of socially positive programs
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#230
One of the reasons I oppose the trade agreements is that we have no strategy here in America
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#232
there's no surplus value in robots. also, the corporate tax rate in germany is about 30%.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#290
Why do we a trade deficit while Germany with stronger unions and similar wages has a trade surplus?
pampango
Jan 2015
#67
I was responding to a post about our "our horrible, horrendous, awful, spectacularly outrageous
pampango
Jan 2015
#145
I would like to think we could learn, but the basic philosophy of so many in our country is
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#280
Manufacturing -is- magical, and it's because of manufacturing that we employ fewer farmhands today.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#214
Our very large corporations, banks and farming enterprises need to be broken up.
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#55
If the charts are not directly related to NAFTA, then why use these charts to defend it?
arcane1
Jan 2015
#157
Charts on wages, employment and family income are not relevant to debate on NAFTA?
pampango
Jan 2015
#170
Relevance is a different story. The OP said these charts are not directly related to NAFTA.
arcane1
Jan 2015
#173
Indeed, they are only reflective of the wages, employment levels and family incomes after NAFTA.
pampango
Jan 2015
#175
NAFTA would have worked a lot better if we had not simultaneously pushed MFN status for China
Algernon Moncrieff
Jan 2015
#21
So if NAFTA's destructive tendencies and it's positive contributions cancel each other out...
bluesbassman
Jan 2015
#50
Excellent point. It was the internet bubble which delayed the effects of NAFTA
still_one
Jan 2015
#131
So the technology boom caused manufacturing jobs and wages to increase during Clinton's time.
pampango
Jan 2015
#201
David Simon is also puzzingly convinced that the War on Drugs isn't a racial issue
Recursion
Jan 2015
#88
Right, but they prove it's impossible that NAFTA caused either job losses or wage decreases
Recursion
Jan 2015
#37
You mean "fewer", and I'm not talking about the last 60 years, I'm talking about the last 20.
Spider Jerusalem
Jan 2015
#47
Well, no. Factories had the option of automating or moving to Mexico and then to China
Recursion
Jan 2015
#48
That's massively increasing their living standards from what they were, don't forget that part.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2015
#178
The bottom 75% did get richer. Is that worth nothing to a liberal? Or is it, "If I'm not richer,
pampango
Jan 2015
#196
AFAIK, for people to go from $1/hour to $15/hour they have to go through $2/hr, $5/hr and so on.
pampango
Jan 2015
#286
I hope DU gets tired of calling Recursion a right-winger, when they're obviously not.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2015
#177
Don't you just hate charts? And people who don't agree you about everything? n/t
pampango
Jan 2015
#197
Before trying to grammar pedant, make sure you understand basic grammar.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2015
#295
One should probably read the link before asserting that it proves one's case. n/t
Gormy Cuss
Jan 2015
#296
The National Alliance for Protecting the People's Food and Health is not impressed
Art_from_Ark
Jan 2015
#250
Krugman’s over-confident answers to his own questions proved to be mostly wrong...
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2015
#142
Interesting article, but it assumes that its readers agree on some underlying assumptions
bhikkhu
Jan 2015
#218
You forgot: Manufacturing employment grew after NAFTA until Bush; Democrats are more pro-trade than
pampango
Jan 2015
#65
So when a really good position is presented on something few know much about look at the recs to
kelliekat44
Jan 2015
#68
So, umm... what's funny about that? I missed my grandfather's funeral because I was stationed here
Recursion
Jan 2015
#80
I'll have to wait for "a really good position" to be presented to answer that.
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2015
#143
Yes, thanks. I did so after reading this post. Mostly the usual suspects.
closeupready
Jan 2015
#138
He's right. We really need to stop fighting the last war. NAFTA delivered what was promised.
Recursion
Jan 2015
#87
Thanks to NAFTA, Indiana lost it last remaining bio degradable cellophane factory
B Calm
Jan 2015
#100
Those tax cuts were suppose to make them more competitive in the NAFTA marketplace, LOL.
B Calm
Jan 2015
#114
Yes! Glad you remember...seems like all this is being shoved down the rabbit hole.
Lars39
Jan 2015
#121
Or rickety tables for a permanent yard sale-flea market on an empty lot on Main Street...
Lars39
Jan 2015
#198
In other words, rigorous statistical data or anecdotal evidence? N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2015
#179
Because they're what's important: do people have jobs, and are those jobs making money for them?
Recursion
Jan 2015
#238
WRT your final paragraph, NAFTA may have been a 'good idea,' but labor
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#158
How much of that do you think is attributable to NAFTA, vs other things that happened at the time?
DanTex
Jan 2015
#166
Tell me, why the need to relentlessly push right wing points of view here?
LondonReign2
Jan 2015
#182
Well said. "we'll never get into the necessary policy discussions as long as the MSM leads with
pampango
Jan 2015
#256
Nobody claims that the economic gains of the Clinton era are "proof" that NAFTA was a disaster.
DanTex
Jan 2015
#264
NAFTA did not 'destroy manufacturing jobs in the US' while Clinton was in office. Then
pampango
Jan 2015
#269