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Showing Original Post only (View all)"we lost the torture debate completely" [View all]
I cant disagree with Marc Thiessen on this: we lost the torture debate completely.
Not much else to say. Theyve had more than thirteen years to sell the would you do it to stop the next ticking time bomb scenario to America, and we bought it wholesale. At some point well use these techniques again, and well cheer when we hear about it.
If we hear about it. The lesson here seems to be to make sure hearing about it never happens when we do torture the next time, because we will.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2015/01/06/beaten-soundly-on-torture/
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who chairs the Senate intelligence committee, launched a six-year, 6,000-page, $40 million investigation into the CIA interrogation program, with the goal of convincing Americans that a) the program did not work and that b) enhanced interrogations were wrong and should never again be permitted.
She failed on all counts.
Just before Christmas, a Post poll revealed the American peoples final verdict. The vast majority agree with the CIA that these techniques were necessary and justified. A majority think that Feinstein should never have released her report. And most importantly 76 percent said they would do it again to protect the country.
Not much else to say. Theyve had more than thirteen years to sell the would you do it to stop the next ticking time bomb scenario to America, and we bought it wholesale. At some point well use these techniques again, and well cheer when we hear about it.
If we hear about it. The lesson here seems to be to make sure hearing about it never happens when we do torture the next time, because we will.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2015/01/06/beaten-soundly-on-torture/
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WRT to your final question: imperial cynicism explains the co-morbid torture approval and
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#35
And then breeds a generation of families harmed by the US and therefore arm against the US.
Fearless
Jan 2015
#37
You make a good point. The country IS sick. We've surrendered completely to the lowest and worst
calimary
Jan 2015
#13
This is exactly my opinion and what I am going to talk about on my radio show tonight. nt
stevenleser
Jan 2015
#32
Isn't it funny that we're willing to execute people for doing the same thing?
sinkingfeeling
Jan 2015
#9
How can you blame Diane Feinstein for the twisted thinking of American voters? nt
kelliekat44
Jan 2015
#11
jesus was tortured so that oughta be a good enough reason to torture "terrorists". after all they
msongs
Jan 2015
#14
OT a bit but Michael Morell and Michael Hayden remind me of Heydrich. Each should be in the
KingCharlemagne
Jan 2015
#36
+1 as I posted above the numbers Balloon Juice posted are not even close to
SomethingFishy
Jan 2015
#29
Thiessen says the investigation was "six sordid years of Democratic demagoguery and investigations"
bigtree
Jan 2015
#19
Pretending that "America" supports torture because somebody asked 1000 people...
countryjake
Jan 2015
#39
"Death to America" is more than a meme that is largely self-inflicted by so-called leaders K&R
bobthedrummer
Jan 2015
#27
Correction: it still is all those things. It's our origin story, still pllaying out.
arcane1
Jan 2015
#59
I think it's a pipe dream to think that anyone in the CIA or Bush Admin will be charged
Kaleva
Jan 2015
#45
Wow, you'd torture someone just for show, knowing that it doesn't protect anyone?
arcane1
Jan 2015
#58
You think torturing KSM was OK, would do it again even though NO credible info was
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#53