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75. I am a huge fan of Mark Thompson or Matsimela Mapfumo of Sirius left radio...

Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:11 PM

Jan 2015

He is on Sirius channel 127, the liberal channel.

He is a Black preacher, lefter than most left atheists

https://www.facebook.com/matsimela

Racists call his show everyday, they call him the racist, of course, etc.

On occasion he will call a Black man "Uncle Tom", very rare, and he is very selective, and only when he is pissed.

Then he will usually apologize, says it aint right probably, and 2 weeks later he does it again.

It is a cathartic process for him, I think.

Before I understood the implication of the term, before I knew the true history of it, I had used it a few times, some years ago, and have since learned that it is wrong to use, for me.

Reminds me of a VERY long time ago my nephew coming to me about something, he is Gay, and was telling me about his troubles and I said something like "Well if you just stopped this Gay nonsense, it causes you so much trouble, why do you do that to yourself?"

Obviously I was an idiot on the subject back then, interestingly enough I never held hate for Gay people, even when I didnt understand them

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Calling folks Uncle Toms, House Negroes, Aunt Jemima's and other similar terminology is racist. [View all] bravenak Jan 2015 OP

That would be disgusting for anyone to use those terms about anyone, no matter their Autumn Jan 2015 #1

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #3

I think if it has to be explained that Autumn Jan 2015 #7

Probably. bravenak Jan 2015 #18

I wonder liberalmike27 Jan 2015 #197

A selfish asshole? bravenak Jan 2015 #200

Well put. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #226

If you have to explain it Aerows Jan 2015 #320

I feel like I have to try. bravenak Jan 2015 #322

Please continue to do so Aerows Jan 2015 #323

I'll give it a shot. bravenak Jan 2015 #324

I believe I know which thread you are referring to Aerows Jan 2015 #326

By "pointing out", do you mean using those terms mentioned in the OP?? 7962 Jan 2015 #413

Agreed. Enthusiastically! WillowTree Jan 2015 #2

Awesome. bravenak Jan 2015 #4

It's pretty disgusting that you HappyMe Jan 2015 #5

I have a prolific DUer that does not agree yet. bravenak Jan 2015 #6

*sigh!* HappyMe Jan 2015 #10

Perhaps this is a window to that soul ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #72

That's uncalled for. pintobean Jan 2015 #93

I have no idea whom this OP is referring to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #133

1SBM made a suggestion, not a statement of fact. Your response is what's uncalled for. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #141

I hope to hell not! bravenak Jan 2015 #99

Sounds like this friend of my late mom's. calimary Jan 2015 #182

Perhaps you should alert the next time you see the post, you should alert on it. mimi85 Jan 2015 #94

It had already survived. bravenak Jan 2015 #101

Is this possibly one you may be speaking of? 7962 Jan 2015 #416

Wow, no, it was somebody else and it was settled earlier. bravenak Jan 2015 #418

Preachin to the choir! I missed the Love thread; I'll look it up. 7962 Jan 2015 #420

I also do not wish people dead. bravenak Jan 2015 #422

Totally agree. pintobean Jan 2015 #8

I don't like that one either. bravenak Jan 2015 #11

I was on that jury. I think that context matters - and the context in that case el_bryanto Jan 2015 #17

George Carlin understood that well. Lucky Luciano Jan 2015 #242

Nods - and I think that was the intention of the poster. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #275

I know George Carlin is some DU God (I know practically nothing about him) but the idea that Number23 Jan 2015 #353

I don't know the bit so can't comment either el_bryanto Jan 2015 #366

I agree to an extent. But it is possible for people to point out the flaws in our society without Number23 Jan 2015 #367

The clip and a couple others. Lucky Luciano Jan 2015 #396

Absolutely gwheezie Jan 2015 #9

That sucks. bravenak Jan 2015 #14

very true. reminds me of something that happened 40+ years ago, ellenrr Jan 2015 #24

You're right. bravenak Jan 2015 #35

Off-topic azmom Jan 2015 #278

You're right. bravenak Jan 2015 #279

Look what happened to Stacy Dash. All she said was "Im voting for Romney" 7962 Jan 2015 #419

I remember that. bravenak Jan 2015 #421

YOU should run for office! 7962 Jan 2015 #436

You're funny. bravenak Jan 2015 #441

Now you made ME laugh. :) nt 7962 Jan 2015 #448

Exactly hibbing Jan 2015 #171

Yup. They're all racist terms. MineralMan Jan 2015 #12

Do a DU search for Condi Rice or Clarence Thomas pipoman Jan 2015 #20

I know. I've seen those terms used on DU. MineralMan Jan 2015 #45

+100 n/t ChazII Jan 2015 #65

Can black liberals use those terms of black conservatives? treestar Jan 2015 #13

I don't like it. bravenak Jan 2015 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #131

Nope. bravenak Jan 2015 #134

I know the majority here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #92

You are right. treestar Jan 2015 #306

Can they? Of course, just like while liberals can. There is no law against it. Should they, or, kelly1mm Jan 2015 #96

True. It just seems odd you can end up treestar Jan 2015 #308

I wouldn't use any language for black conservatives that I couldn't use for white ones MrScorpio Jan 2015 #205

Thanks for answering. treestar Jan 2015 #311

They can but it is still racist. Instead of attacking the behavior or hypocrisy still_one Jan 2015 #277

Anyone *can* use them; it's just that it's wrong to do so. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #289

It's counterproductive. Ink Man Jan 2015 #16

I was thinking the same thing. bravenak Jan 2015 #19

It is all part of the 'otherization' process. But when 'we' do it it is for good reasons, or so I kelly1mm Jan 2015 #100

I disagree. Calling Clarence Thomas or Ben Carson an oreo is not racist in my opinion. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #21

Yes. It is. bravenak Jan 2015 #26

What's the epithet for "white on the outside, black on the inside?" Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #37

I love your answer, and I'd add to Herverpa... ellenrr Jan 2015 #49

Strictly speaking, VWolf Jan 2015 #116

Please don't ruin Creamsicles for me! FrodosPet Jan 2015 #280

I call him jag-off. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #281

lol not the best example! treestar Jan 2015 #315

There isn't one? Roy Rolling Jan 2015 #85

See post 142. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #156

Actually there IS a word for that tkmorris Jan 2015 #87

If you're thinking of the word 1SBM used, it's hardly equivalent as an insult Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #124

Yes there is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #98

... Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #119

Uhhhh... RobinA Jan 2015 #128

No, there isn't. Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #142

I hadn't heard that word used until recently. treestar Jan 2015 #317

So, do you think a black person cannot philosophically be a conservative? TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #60

Many, if not the majority, of Blacks are conservative, and there's absolutely nothing wrong BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #158

It is - that and zebra JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #74

There has been some call to get rid of curse words on DU BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #369

I'm with you brother! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #388

Haha! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #407

Feel free! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #434

My mother was a teacher BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #454

Why do you need a label to say that? Why the need for constant 'otherization'? nt kelly1mm Jan 2015 #104

Nothing wrong with labels in my opinion when they apply. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #125

If others are offended by the labels you use then perhaps you should rethink using them. kelly1mm Jan 2015 #146

If others are offended, so be it. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #204

Thank you for the kind words. You are free to use whatever words you wish in my book! And if kelly1mm Jan 2015 #217

See Post 200. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #228

No I don't of course. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #236

You seem to want to pick and choose whose ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #254

Because you say you represent African-American thought does not mean that you do. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #284

You doubt it because ...? 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #286

I doubt it because the voices on DU in general are much more liberal than voices nationwide overall HERVEPA Jan 2015 #290

One more point, then you can be done ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #293

I can be done when I say I can be done, actually. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #302

Very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #304

Condescending. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #310

Sorry, .... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #318

Could you explain the 2nd para, please? delrem Jan 2015 #282

+1 ... That about sums it up. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #288

In which case, call them hypocrites, the other terms are saying they are not "black enough" which uppityperson Jan 2015 #301

+ ellenrr Jan 2015 #347

"it's not racist" you say and then go on to prove 100% how it ABSOLUTELY IS Number23 Jan 2015 #354

Clarence Thomas is more of a Uncle Rukus" c588415 Jan 2015 #390

"doing white peoples bidding"? Thats YOUR opinion. To then denigrate them is NOT. 7962 Jan 2015 #435

Didn't he separate conjoined twins? bravenak Jan 2015 #449

Yes, thats what made him famous at a young age. here's a bio: 7962 Jan 2015 #450

Yes it is. Marrah_G Jan 2015 #439

I agree, 100%. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #22

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #27

No, not always. Because "It's the 21st Century, but the house Negro is still here." jtuck004 Jan 2015 #23

Malcolm is dead. bravenak Jan 2015 #25

What offends me is poverty, kids not eating, countries that enrich bank$sters at the expense of jtuck004 Jan 2015 #359

This in a nutshell. malokvale77 Jan 2015 #385

I found it. Well some of it. bravenak Jan 2015 #31

malcolm is talking about the white liberal leadership there. and citing him NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #61

I don't have to agree with everything. bravenak Jan 2015 #63

No, you don't. Neither do others. And I guess malcolm x was also black history in motion. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #67

He definitely was. bravenak Jan 2015 #70

He does not in any way specify that he is talking about white liberal leadership Number23 Jan 2015 #363

It's clear who he's talking about, and it isn't your ordinary white liberal, unless NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #384

His point was that many civil rights leaders were beholden to white liberals because they pretended Number23 Jan 2015 #389

While you are right about the issue being about power... blackspade Jan 2015 #109

The quote I cited was about helping people recognize when they are in servitude, regardless of jtuck004 Jan 2015 #358

He had an incomplete understanding of the dynamics of slavery in the big house BainsBane Jan 2015 #319

Thats the most ridiculous analogy I've seen. 7962 Jan 2015 #437

Well, perhaps your experience is as limited as your vision. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #451

If you say it's racist, that's good enough for me. nt Bonobo Jan 2015 #28

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #32

i'm surprised to see such agreement about this Enrique Jan 2015 #29

I'm glad to see agreement. bravenak Jan 2015 #34

You've got it twisted Hutzpa Jan 2015 #30

Oh, please! bravenak Jan 2015 #33

Absolutely loyalsister Jan 2015 #36

For real. bravenak Jan 2015 #38

+ ellenrr Jan 2015 #51

No kidding. I'm not sure that any Dem, Progressive or person with a conscience would find any R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #39

Thank you Daneel. bravenak Jan 2015 #41

Very true. It's also wrong to refer to Sen. Graham as "Miss Lindsey" and the like. QC Jan 2015 #40

I hate that!!! bravenak Jan 2015 #42

I hate that too JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #244

Thanks! And it's got nothing to do with Lindsey Graham, QC Jan 2015 #296

That ain't right. The name calling that is... Blanks Jan 2015 #43

That Gomerard?(spelling) man who wants speaker of the house was the one who wanted West speaker. Sunlei Jan 2015 #48

Allen West is the biggest jerk in the universe. bravenak Jan 2015 #50

I think President Obama got called some of those and worse by political 'leadership'. Sunlei Jan 2015 #44

I Agree 1step Jan 2015 #46

I hate him too. bravenak Jan 2015 #47

But you would presumably denounce the use of those names for him muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #106

Of course. bravenak Jan 2015 #107

Please insert the Sarcasm or laughing thingy. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #108

But Why? 1step Jan 2015 #111

Is "poor widdle white men" racist? upaloopa Jan 2015 #52

What does this have to do with the op? bravenak Jan 2015 #55

Can't I ask a question? upaloopa Jan 2015 #71

Any time. bravenak Jan 2015 #80

Ill-advised, and, possibly, bigoted; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #105

Well thanks but I am confused now. upaloopa Jan 2015 #112

I don't understand. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #152

Only Whites RobinA Jan 2015 #161

To avoid that I just use bigoted instead for both 'racist' and 'bigoted' actions. Kind of one of kelly1mm Jan 2015 #185

Bingo ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #234

Sarcastic or not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #230

Who gets to make the rules? upaloopa Jan 2015 #238

Daniel Webster is dead. bravenak Jan 2015 #243

Yes but we don't get to go to some Internet upaloopa Jan 2015 #251

I can. bravenak Jan 2015 #252

Not for me you can't and many others upaloopa Jan 2015 #261

I'll be around for a while deciding things. bravenak Jan 2015 #263

I am sure you will. upaloopa Jan 2015 #268

Yes I am. bravenak Jan 2015 #270

For you upaloopa Jan 2015 #305

I definately am my own decider. bravenak Jan 2015 #316

Nobody but you has said that. delrem Jan 2015 #299

Except that bigotry also is tied to institutional and cultural power, your claim that bigotry is not Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #245

Agreed; but, the bigotry you mention ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #273

I have thought that bigotry can be against any number of group of people sharing a uppityperson Jan 2015 #312

The very concept of Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #215

Please explain upaloopa Jan 2015 #232

Yes. Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #239

We can use this terminology because we're better...and right. ileus Jan 2015 #53

It's only racist if your a republican. bravenak Jan 2015 #56

the ignorance surrounding race relations on this board continually astounds me. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #54

Me too.nt bravenak Jan 2015 #57

It's not ignorance ... It's Arrogance. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #110

*sigh* true enough. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #122

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #150

also true .. however ... "deliberately obtuse" does better with regards to DU3 juries Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #154

Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #163

+1 n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #135

It's NOT ignorance.....it is deliberate tone deafness. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #175

that works too. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #181

I'm glad you said it. Throd Jan 2015 #58

I agree. bravenak Jan 2015 #73

I think another layer of the racism lies in the implicit assumption Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #59

I never really even thought about it like that, but You're right. bravenak Jan 2015 #76

I agree with you fully, I saw that thread when it was new. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #62

Hell yeah! bravenak Jan 2015 #66

It's also politically stupid, but I think most who use such terms 'ironically' do so just to use the Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #102

Trying to fit in, then. bravenak Jan 2015 #103

I agree absolutely. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #64

Thanks. I appreciate that. bravenak Jan 2015 #78

I've seen words tossed around here that were last used (I thought) 50 years ago. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #91

I know, right? bravenak Jan 2015 #95

That you even had to say it azurnoir Jan 2015 #68

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #174

+1,000,000 ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #69

I am a huge fan of Mark Thompson or Matsimela Mapfumo of Sirius left radio... randys1 Jan 2015 #75

I'll check him out. bravenak Jan 2015 #84

He is a preacher, Christian and in his early 40's...NYC... randys1 Jan 2015 #89

Oh, no!!!! bravenak Jan 2015 #97

On his show he literally never preaches and only talks religion if someone randys1 Jan 2015 #138

Ok. You brought me back into the fold. bravenak Jan 2015 #145

When I had XM, I used to listen to Matsimela Mapfumo whenever possible. Zorra Jan 2015 #266

So, is it racist (or sexist) for me to say "A black person (or woman) voting for a Republican is kath Jan 2015 #77

What do you think? bravenak Jan 2015 #83

See: "I use this quote a lot, and really think it is true." ieoeja Jan 2015 #164

Whatever. bravenak Jan 2015 #168

Anyone other than the top 10%. The Republicans represent the top 10%'s interests KingCharlemagne Jan 2015 #193

I agree. bravenak Jan 2015 #202

but I *don't* clearly think the statement is not racist. kath Jan 2015 #334

True, they want ALL of us for dinner ( the 99%) kath Jan 2015 #329

Of course. bravenak Jan 2015 #331

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #118

That one's tricky - I have said "any poor (or low wage earner) voting ... haele Jan 2015 #153

I'm Hispanic and I've paraphrased that to say it about Hispanics to my Repub sister. Rozlee Jan 2015 #402

"They've experienced the worst of the worst in this country F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #455

Context is all. Orsino Jan 2015 #79

I can understand your position. bravenak Jan 2015 #88

No--context is not all. As a woman, I still don't want to see another woman referred to with msanthrope Jan 2015 #177

Context is still all... Orsino Jan 2015 #180

Correct HERVEPA Jan 2015 #292

Just calling them a Republican should be insult enough! blackspade Jan 2015 #81

For real, though. bravenak Jan 2015 #82

Derogatory terms based on race, gender, sexuality identity, or age are never acceptable. bluesbassman Jan 2015 #86

I agree. bravenak Jan 2015 #90

You might look at your own derogatory associations about "white people" Rilgin Jan 2015 #221

You really put a lot of though into that inane self serving crap. bravenak Jan 2015 #223

You are right, I did think about my post before I posted it Rilgin Jan 2015 #285

I use the word Black alot too. bravenak Jan 2015 #287

Yes Rilgin Jan 2015 #321

Maybe you should make an attempt to better understand the history then. bravenak Jan 2015 #327

Again yes Rilgin Jan 2015 #350

Take care. bravenak Jan 2015 #351

100% agree with you. tammywammy Jan 2015 #186

Of course calling names to insult based on skin color is racist. I wont, but have a question uppityperson Jan 2015 #113

If you would not use it on a person of another color, it is not ok. bravenak Jan 2015 #115

I take it personally gwheezie Jan 2015 #137

Me too. bravenak Jan 2015 #139

I am firmly in the describe behavior vs insult the person, group. people do act not in uppityperson Jan 2015 #165

I don't understand it either. bravenak Jan 2015 #169

I was wrong, about my question if it is a negative but accurate term ever. Hypocrite is uppityperson Jan 2015 #210

Thank you.nt bravenak Jan 2015 #212

Mighty generous of you towards Powell HERVEPA Jan 2015 #298

you got a lot out of my saying "condoms", didn't you? uppityperson Jan 2015 #314

labels handmade34 Jan 2015 #114

Agreed. bravenak Jan 2015 #120

exactly. nt uppityperson Jan 2015 #167

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #117

I hate Uncle Tom, ms Lindsey and redneck gwheezie Jan 2015 #121

The Ms. lindsay thing creeps me out. bravenak Jan 2015 #191

I don't like the things they say about Lindsey Graham rbrnmw Jan 2015 #203

Damn, that was Republicans doing that crap? bravenak Jan 2015 #207

Yep they even brought their kids rbrnmw Jan 2015 #211

Bundy ranch. bravenak Jan 2015 #213

The Miss Lindsey stuff is wrong because it implies there is something wrong with being gay. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #300

Language police Android3.14 Jan 2015 #123

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #127

But no actual argument? Android3.14 Jan 2015 #130

You have the PRIVILEGE to do so. bravenak Jan 2015 #136

What argument is required ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #144

Come on, don't you understand it is all the rest of us who need it explained to us? So we can be kelly1mm Jan 2015 #160

Amazing isn't it? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #166

Argue, continue to behave like a bully, do whatever Android3.14 Jan 2015 #342

Behave like a bully???? 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #356

So when Malcolm X called Martin Luther King an Uncle Tom, Malcolm X was being racist Android3.14 Jan 2015 #357

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #362

Waaaahhhh! bravenak Jan 2015 #132

really? language police rbrnmw Jan 2015 #147

Everything is fascist now. bravenak Jan 2015 #155

yes because Hitler loved darker hued folks rbrnmw Jan 2015 #194

Oh. Are you bringing up factual historical data? bravenak Jan 2015 #201

oops sorry wouldn't want to offend the lurkers rbrnmw Jan 2015 #206

Not just the lurkers. bravenak Jan 2015 #208

Sure do and they know I know rbrnmw Jan 2015 #214

Oh give me a break. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #148

One break Android3.14 Jan 2015 #343

Are you serious? "calling black people" an insult of their skin color is...not racist? uppityperson Jan 2015 #172

I didn't understand the last sentence of your post Android3.14 Jan 2015 #346

A race based insult is not racist? Wow. I'd quote Inigo Montoya but it's getting old. uppityperson Jan 2015 #348

is asking for an answer merely supporting your little Language Police Industrial Complex? LanternWaste Jan 2015 #178

It's a usage error. Consider the term "Benedict Arnold" Android3.14 Jan 2015 #218

Wait what ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #249

Hmmm Android3.14 Jan 2015 #333

Are you saying "uncle tom" does not have it's origins in racism or isn't racist? uppityperson Jan 2015 #345

Not getting into the efficacy of using Wiki as a source ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #360

I'm sure you're an expert on the use of the word "racism." gollygee Jan 2015 #231

But at least he/she is not being "Language Policey" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #250

Not an expert on racism, but I do make my living as a wordsmith Android3.14 Jan 2015 #335

My degree and work have also been in writing gollygee Jan 2015 #352

Because, after all, the only people who should comment are sociologists and anti-racism educators Android3.14 Jan 2015 #355

They are only people in a position of expertise about the word "racism." n/t gollygee Jan 2015 #361

I think the poster was pointing out JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #391

lolwut? nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #309

Yes, why not just call them "phoney-baloney hypocrites"? GoCubsGo Jan 2015 #126

Works for me!nt bravenak Jan 2015 #140

Happy to kick and rec this! zappaman Jan 2015 #129

Thanks!nt bravenak Jan 2015 #143

Sorry you had to say that, bravenak, but glad you did. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #149

I know, Sabrina. It's too much sometimes, I have to laugh a bit. bravenak Jan 2015 #151

It implies there are certain behavioral standards to maintain "blackness" Kurska Jan 2015 #157

It is bizarre. bravenak Jan 2015 #159

Nor can I dance ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #162

See! bravenak Jan 2015 #170

Well I can dance gwheezie Jan 2015 #183

Trapped in a Cuban Salsa dancer's body!! bravenak Jan 2015 #187

This last time gwheezie Jan 2015 #190

Omg, I'm dying over here! bravenak Jan 2015 #192

Lol lol lol gwheezie Jan 2015 #195

They are very sweet when they wanna be. bravenak Jan 2015 #198

No matter Kurska Jan 2015 #423

Thanks, man. bravenak Jan 2015 #424

No worries, I know you'd do the same for me. Kurska Jan 2015 #426

It is raw racism and I have seen the left use those terms. NCTraveler Jan 2015 #173

Not black enough, exactly. bravenak Jan 2015 #176

I've gotten 'not black like that' JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #246

They never explain it either. bravenak Jan 2015 #255

Agreed. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #179

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #184

no idea why anyone is arguing this at all. its exactly why we shouldn't use sexist commentary La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #225

I wrote mean things in my copy of his Autobiography. bravenak Jan 2015 #240

+1 brer cat Jan 2015 #381

Context AlbertCat Jan 2015 #188

I'm just going to call it racist. bravenak Jan 2015 #196

Agreed... MrScorpio Jan 2015 #189

Panderers they are. bravenak Jan 2015 #199

Agreed. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #209

For those confusing and defending racist speech with the "free speech" argument ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #216

See post 218 Android3.14 Jan 2015 #219

Are you a person of color? ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #222

See my Post 249 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #258

Because, after all, there are only two options Android3.14 Jan 2015 #337

Eye rolling is a sign of contempt JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #392

Oh good gawd. Iggo Jan 2015 #220

Because??? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #260

why does bravenak's thread offend you? rbrnmw Jan 2015 #272

Who said I'm offended? Iggo Jan 2015 #313

sorry rbrnmw Jan 2015 #332

OK, you got it, I promise not to speak about race in 2015 so I don't risk offending anybody kickysnana Jan 2015 #224

Um. Ok. bravenak Jan 2015 #237

That is probably best ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #241

And saying that the problem is "old, white men" is ageist and racist. nichomachus Jan 2015 #227

When I say it I say 'old, conservstive, white men'. bravenak Jan 2015 #233

Why not just say "conservatives?" Unless less young and female conservatives are different? n/t nichomachus Jan 2015 #253

They are following the leader. bravenak Jan 2015 #256

Bullcrap. nichomachus Jan 2015 #259

He leaders are not men? bravenak Jan 2015 #262

when we were kids, my brother called my sister a negro kcass1954 Jan 2015 #229

Perfect. bravenak Jan 2015 #235

I think I love your mother! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #247

Curious, r "red neck" and "white trash" also racist? These are terms used to describe stupid white McCamy Taylor Jan 2015 #248

I think both terms are ignorant, bigoted, and unacceptable. bravenak Jan 2015 #265

It's a poor reflection on DU that this post is necessary. Scuba Jan 2015 #257

But, read the comments contained within ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #264

I think we get too comfortable thinking that only republicans can be wrong. bravenak Jan 2015 #267

We are weird, and perhaps our disdain for each other while being interdependent is the weirdest. Scuba Jan 2015 #269

Hell yeah. If we could move to different planets, some idiots would. bravenak Jan 2015 #271

Maybe that's what happened ... Scuba Jan 2015 #276

I agree, no matter who uses it, or what race they are. Words like hypocrite still_one Jan 2015 #274

Hypocrite fits perfectly. bravenak Jan 2015 #283

Whatever happened to disagreeing with someone without name calling? 6000eliot Jan 2015 #291

I don't know. bravenak Jan 2015 #294

Most people who use those terms don't even know what they mean BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #295

Thank you for Mr. impeached and prisoner number 2047. bravenak Jan 2015 #349

Thank you for this discussion BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #408

LOL! bravenak Jan 2015 #409

Agreed. I just call them fracking, smegging, gorram, nerf herding mud-bloods. jmondine Jan 2015 #297

As a general rule, insults are meant to be cruel. GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #303

K&R n/t Feral Child Jan 2015 #307

White people ought not to be policing who's geek tragedy Jan 2015 #325

Perhaps the idea that there is a legitimate black person (or a legitimate female, white, asian, etc. kelly1mm Jan 2015 #338

Two interesting pieces on the Harry Belafonte flap back in 2002: kath Jan 2015 #328

We have been taught to use race to bash each other. bravenak Jan 2015 #330

I remember that rbrnmw Jan 2015 #336

You are absolutely right! Quackers Jan 2015 #339

I think so. bravenak Jan 2015 #344

Name-calling is bad but what the Republicans do is FAR FAR WORSE. nt valerief Jan 2015 #340

I don't want to be bad and point the finger at worse. That's all.nt bravenak Jan 2015 #341

I happen to agree with you rpannier Jan 2015 #364

Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #365

I'm coming into this thread late, Sissyk Jan 2015 #368

Thank you back! bravenak Jan 2015 #372

How is this not self-evident? I'm very sorry you find it necessary to point it out here on DU. scarletwoman Jan 2015 #370

A couple of weeks ago, I was too late to jury alert a comment Denzil_DC Jan 2015 #374

I think we are all smart enough to find creative descriptions. bravenak Jan 2015 #376

Wow TNNurse Jan 2015 #371

Absolutely Kalidurga Jan 2015 #373

Everything you just said plus 10. bravenak Jan 2015 #375

Yeah that is funny Kalidurga Jan 2015 #377

Yep. She's an evil entity like Cheney the Ghoul. bravenak Jan 2015 #378

lordy, bravenak. brer cat Jan 2015 #379

She always cuts straight to it. bravenak Jan 2015 #380

and it only gives right wankers even MORE ammo to shit on the left. doing so discredits more than alp227 Jan 2015 #382

I agree with that wholeheartedly. bravenak Jan 2015 #383

I had a black person explain to me what an Uncle Tom meant 4dsc Jan 2015 #386

Brilliant. bravenak Jan 2015 #387

Huge difference between Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #393

You can think however you please. bravenak Jan 2015 #394

We'll likely continue to disagree, but... CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #395

Have you read the book? bravenak Jan 2015 #397

Yes CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #398

Yes it was. bravenak Jan 2015 #400

I'm talking about the historical significance of the character CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #401

Who decided that? bravenak Jan 2015 #403

Black writers and activists CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #405

They took cues from what they saw. bravenak Jan 2015 #406

Here is a snip of th end plot where Uncke Tom gets beat to death allowing the other slaves to escape bravenak Jan 2015 #399

KnR Hekate Jan 2015 #404

bravenak ~ hopemountain Jan 2015 #410

I don't think so either. bravenak Jan 2015 #411

Like MANY people, I had to read it in school CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #415

well then, i question your comprehension hopemountain Jan 2015 #417

What are you even talking about? Do you know? CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #427

bravenak already explained it to you. hopemountain Jan 2015 #429

What the....what? CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #430

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I'm SO tired of the double standard. 7962 Jan 2015 #412

I think we should end the double standard. bravenak Jan 2015 #414

Oreo is another one to add to the list. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #425

Yup.nt bravenak Jan 2015 #428

Bravenak, I KnR'd this ages ago. It's really quite the Rorschach Test by now, isn't it? Hekate Jan 2015 #431

I have been confused and amused. bravenak Jan 2015 #432

Anytime a comment is made, based on KMOD Jan 2015 #433

I agree Marrah_G Jan 2015 #438

Exactly! bravenak Jan 2015 #444

Of course. LWolf Jan 2015 #440

It's weird. bravenak Jan 2015 #442

As a black person I will use those terminology regardless of your race Farmbrook Jan 2015 #443

Do as you please. bravenak Jan 2015 #445

As a black person I will use those terminologies regardless of your race Farmbrook Jan 2015 #446

I'll clown you and make you look stupid. bravenak Jan 2015 #447

It's really crazy that you had to post this. DUers should know better. (nt) Inkfreak Jan 2015 #452

Yes, we should. bravenak Jan 2015 #453

Kick and R. BeanMusical Jan 2015 #456

True. bravenak Jan 2015 #458

Oh bullshit. Glassunion Jan 2015 #457

Well pardon me but that was 'fake' racism. bravenak Jan 2015 #459