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In reply to the discussion: Who has read the TPP? Congressman Sander Levin (D) & here's what he says~ [View all]RiverLover
(7,830 posts)137. If TPP passes, those countries' corporations can sue US through investor-state settlement disputes.
And avoid OUR court systems to do so.
These foreign corps can't do that without a lousy FTA giving them that right over our regulations & personal property.
Under previous presidential administrations, the United States signed a number of free trade agreements (FTAs) that grant foreign corporations extraordinary rights and protections beyond the rights of domestic companies. A little-known FTA mechanism called investor-state enforcement allows foreign firms to skirt domestic court systems and directly sue governments for cash damages (our tax dollars) over alleged violations of their new rights before UN and World Bank tribunals staffed by private sector attorneys who rotate between serving as "judges" and bringing cases for corporations. Using this extreme system, corporations have sued the U.S. government in foreign trade tribunals for enacting laws or regulations that interfered with the corporations expected profits. This interference has included essential environmental regulations, health laws, and domestic court decisions. These cases are not just threats to domestic U.S. policies. U.S. corporations have also used FTAs to attack public interest laws abroad.
...he Obama administration is currently negotiating a sweeping new FTA called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) with Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam -- the first FTA negotiated by the Obama administration. Despite Obamas many campaign promises to scale down investor-state enforcement in trade agreements, the leaked investment chapter of the TPP reveals that the Obama administration intends to expand even further the extreme investor-state model of past FTAs. If passed, the TPP would grant thousands of corporations these extraordinary rights to sue governments over public interest policies for taxpayer compensation.
Below are the maps of the locations of multinational corporations that would get these new rights if Congress would pass the TPP. More than 6,000 corporations with more than 54,000 corporate affiliates would be able to use these rights, including over 300 financial services companies that could challenge essential financial sector regulations through investor-state provisions. These corporations could challenge the local zoning and environmental laws of your community, so zoom in using the "+" button to see which corporations are in your city. Click on the dots to see the names of the corporations and their industry. The color of the marker indicates the country of the parent company. The red lines on the map are the borders of the districts of the U.S. House of Representatives. Click here for a full list of companies based in TPP countries that operate in the United States, sorted by congressional district....
Read more here~
http://citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=4083
...he Obama administration is currently negotiating a sweeping new FTA called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) with Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore, and Vietnam -- the first FTA negotiated by the Obama administration. Despite Obamas many campaign promises to scale down investor-state enforcement in trade agreements, the leaked investment chapter of the TPP reveals that the Obama administration intends to expand even further the extreme investor-state model of past FTAs. If passed, the TPP would grant thousands of corporations these extraordinary rights to sue governments over public interest policies for taxpayer compensation.
Below are the maps of the locations of multinational corporations that would get these new rights if Congress would pass the TPP. More than 6,000 corporations with more than 54,000 corporate affiliates would be able to use these rights, including over 300 financial services companies that could challenge essential financial sector regulations through investor-state provisions. These corporations could challenge the local zoning and environmental laws of your community, so zoom in using the "+" button to see which corporations are in your city. Click on the dots to see the names of the corporations and their industry. The color of the marker indicates the country of the parent company. The red lines on the map are the borders of the districts of the U.S. House of Representatives. Click here for a full list of companies based in TPP countries that operate in the United States, sorted by congressional district....
Read more here~
http://citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=4083
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Who has read the TPP? Congressman Sander Levin (D) & here's what he says~ [View all]
RiverLover
Jan 2015
OP
If the TPP was good for Americans, they'd have released it already. Think about it.
grahamhgreen
Jan 2015
#115
That's what I'm afraid of. I'm sure ex-Citi exec Fromam, our friendly USTR, is very pleased
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#12
Not sure the Repubs are for it. According to what I've been told on DU, 60% of Dems
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#20
The info is correct. It refers to Democrats in general, not Democratic politicians.
pampango
Jan 2015
#43
We do trade less than any other country. Perhaps that is why its perceived importance is so low or
pampango
Jan 2015
#58
You posted a Hart Research poll yourself that showed similar results to Pew on support
pampango
Jan 2015
#81
You may highly doubt whatever you wish to highly doubt. The republican base shares your doubts more
pampango
Jan 2015
#86
Oh I have no doubt that the Republican base hates it, but I am not buying that the
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2015
#87
And no one believes that the Democratic base "would support not bringing it to the public".
pampango
Jan 2015
#89
The republican base rarely means anything to their policiticans. The poll just shows what they think
pampango
Jan 2015
#100
Of course, whether you support it is a personal decision. That 60% of Democrats support it
pampango
Jan 2015
#47
NAFTA was also a harbinger of doom...it has not been. As well, I do not think Obama will trade
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#88
Actually manufacturing wages fell from 1972 to 1995 long before NAFTA, rose after NAFTA until
pampango
Jan 2015
#105
The well-meaning Congressman needs to wait to see the FINALIZED version before...
stillwaiting
Jan 2015
#8
He obviously needs a civics lesson. He just doesn't know how politics work, if he did he wouldn't
Autumn
Jan 2015
#56
So, you favor a draft of a treaty that gives away all of our governmental rights to foreign corps?
lark
Jan 2015
#98
if you relieve somone of all responsibility, you also negate their intelligence
Skittles
Jan 2015
#121
If we translate the political-speak... it's what he didn't say that is important
whereisjustice
Jan 2015
#14
We know it 'fucks the environment', the laws that were so hard fought for here, because of
sabrina 1
Jan 2015
#21
Levin, we know better. The TPP will never benefit us. It will only benefit the few.
Enthusiast
Jan 2015
#16
Fast Track means they have to give it an up or down vote as it stands, not that they have to rush it
Recursion
Jan 2015
#73
With republican majorities in both houses I'm not sure I want them "editing" or "changing" it.
pampango
Jan 2015
#109
That is your opinion and that is fine. Let us just hope that Obama does not submit it to congress
pampango
Jan 2015
#113
Unfortunately it is not the opinion of the Democratic majority, that is plain as day,
Phlem
Jan 2015
#118
I don't think trade deals or a a lack thereof will solve our problems. That's not what history shows
pampango
Jan 2015
#122
Nice, but Perot's excellent PR gimmick - the "giant sucking sound" - trumps any actual evidence
pampango
Jan 2015
#82
Well, no, it was the banks who were never covered by Glass-Steagall to begin with that crashed
Recursion
Jan 2015
#135
Glass-Steagall Kept Banks, Investment houses and Insurance companies apart.
imthevicar
Jan 2015
#138
It lasted until Bush mismanaged it. It's hard for anything to survive that. n/t
pampango
Jan 2015
#127
Manufacturing jobs and wages increased. Were those part of the dot com bubble, too? n/t
pampango
Jan 2015
#128
FYI- "President Obama will seek to enlist Republicans to partner on a major push on trade deals."
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#34
Yeah but as soon as Congress alots the TPP the 88 seconds that Bernie Sanders
truedelphi
Jan 2015
#49
It's more like an arranged marriage, w/ unknown rules & multiple partners you don't know well,
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#134
It is a rather tragic situation when the man we all believed in on Nov 5th 2008
truedelphi
Jan 2015
#46
Which happened long before Obama became president, thus my impatience with all the Obama bashing
randys1
Jan 2015
#55
Complaining about the TPP does not equal "Obama bashing". Are you of the group
rhett o rick
Jan 2015
#64
There is Obama bashing because he does nothing to try and reverse the 30 years of
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2015
#69
Nothing? I dont think that is correct. Look, I am of the group who says the following:
randys1
Jan 2015
#104
The sticking point seems to be the US's insistence that this keep the current bilateral agreements
Recursion
Jan 2015
#65
I agree, lets have a long and transparent debate on the tpp, and not fast track it.
midnight
Jan 2015
#68
among other things bad... the US will be outvoted by dozens of countries like ...
quadrature
Jan 2015
#74
What in particular will change? About 12 more countries & 54K more foreign corps will be able to
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#132
If TPP passes, those countries' corporations can sue US through investor-state settlement disputes.
RiverLover
Jan 2015
#137