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pampango

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34. Uh oh. The obligatory "BOG" reference.

Wed Jan 7, 2015, 07:18 AM

Jan 2015

Is everyone with whom you disagree a member of an 'evil empire' of sorts?

So the 1% wants the pipeline. (Unfortunately the pipeline is also popular in the polls as well.) Some believe that Obama secretly does too. (Though promising a veto of a bill that is also popular in the polls seems a strange way to prove it.)

When (not if) the majority-republican congress now authorizes the pipeline, he will veto it. Now one would assume this will make the 1% mad because they are not getting their new toy. Do you believe that, while he is vetoing the 1%'s new toy and asking congressional Democrats to uphold his veto of a popular bill, he is secretly winking at them and telling them, "Don't worry I will make sure you get your toy but it will have to be as part of a 'compromise at a later date'. Don't be too concerned. You know that I never get much from your republican servants in DC. The 'compromise' will be a bad one for liberals." Wink, wink.

I wonder if republicans often accused republican presidents of threatening to veto liberal bills, which they secretly supported, only so they could frustrate their base by offering the vetoed bill as a 'compromise' down the road.

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soo it appears some do not know President Obama as well as they think they do... [View all] VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 OP

And another DU outrage ... JoePhilly Jan 2015 #1

Keystone was already on its death bed thanks to low oil prices. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #23

You are good at Monday morning quarterbacking. upaloopa Jan 2015 #52

Na, I simply don't get caught up in the ... JoePhilly Jan 2015 #88

This move confirms that he is going to eviscerate Social Security jberryhill Jan 2015 #2

Exactly, just as soon as he outlaws Gay marriage and donuts randys1 Jan 2015 #3

Don't forget JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #4

he is also outlawing sprinkles on Christmas cookies. rbrnmw Jan 2015 #11

That ain't right JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #15

not my sprinkles noooo rbrnmw Jan 2015 #17

He's not promising to oppose the pipeline here, sorry. Marr Jan 2015 #5

Exactly zipplewrath Jan 2015 #6

You mean the imitation distinction the "anti-boggers" create? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #9

No zipplewrath Jan 2015 #27

because AS I said...he holds his cards close to his vest....he doesn't telegraph his punches.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #48

Not to mention his "supporters" zipplewrath Jan 2015 #53

This supporter hasn't.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #54

Yep, it's a piece of political currency. Marr Jan 2015 #14

of course not.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #19

It isn't zipplewrath Jan 2015 #25

what the heck does that have to do with this.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #28

I've never said he serves the will of the Republican Party. Marr Jan 2015 #30

There is a difference between the will of the republican party and the will of the 1%? pampango Jan 2015 #33

Sometimes, yes. Marr Jan 2015 #42

and who do YOU think the Republican Party serves? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #47

Is this really so hard to grasp? Marr Jan 2015 #55

ding ding ding.....winner winner chicken dinner!!!! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #57

Oh, c'mon-- you're not going to convince anyone that the Third Way/DLC types aren't Marr Jan 2015 #58

For crying out loud....you give them way too much credit.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #59

Just because he vetoes it, doesn't mean he's going to ultimately block it. zipplewrath Jan 2015 #43

No its a imitation distinction only held on to by those afraid to eat crow.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #49

Hardly zipplewrath Jan 2015 #60

and that would be completely ridiculous..... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #62

Which part? zipplewrath Jan 2015 #64

Oh is he a Tyrant now???? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #66

Please out line where I used the word Tyrant. zipplewrath Jan 2015 #70

You didn't but you sure described one! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #71

Not "Only" zipplewrath Jan 2015 #81

but you didn't....you for some reason chose only the worst two you could think of! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #82

How are they the "worst"? zipplewrath Jan 2015 #89

Just like all those massive Social Security cuts he's making every other week. NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #67

and they think we ALWAYS forget how OFTEN they have been wrong about Pres. Obama! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #69

It just makes me remember that FDR was attacked in the same way, NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #73

You are soooo right! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #74

Personally, I'm tired of the attempts to manufacture fights among liberal/progressive leaders. NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #75

Right again on all counts! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #78

It's amazing how much crap people get for supporting the Democratic President on "Democratic Underground" NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #83

They had nothing but praise for each other personally, they may disagree on some things, but Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #80

Uh oh. The obligatory "BOG" reference. pampango Jan 2015 #34

No zipplewrath Jan 2015 #44

because the THINK they know this man's mind....even though they are wrong about him OVER and VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #50

Not much of a power grab. Igel Jan 2015 #10

Thanks for that. I was too lazy to read the article. A good lesson; always read the fine print. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #26

yes, he might want to get credit for approving the pipeline Enrique Jan 2015 #36

OR you could be wrong about President Obama yet again! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #51

That is true, but Obama has made it clear he is no fan of the pipeline. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #79

There's a lawsuit pending in Nebraska. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #7

Bingo! Me too. nt RiverLover Jan 2015 #8

Excellent news! Phlem Jan 2015 #12

He's been saying he wouldn't sign it for quite a while. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #13

i think he's been hinting up until now Enrique Jan 2015 #37

Ah... VR... He Giveth... And He Taketh Away... WillyT Jan 2015 #16

This is what happens when the left ignores the Centrists and holds his feet to the fire. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #18

Oh good grief!!!! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #20

We've been saying to deny approval of the pipeline for a long time only to be disparage by rhett o rick Jan 2015 #39

The "Wait and See" attitude was about President Obama..... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #68

It's hard to surprise someone that doesn't care. The progressive have been asking the president for rhett o rick Jan 2015 #84

Amen! Phlem Jan 2015 #21

+1000 Ramses Jan 2015 #22

Wow....talk about a "power grab" ....LMAO! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #29

+1 Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #24

FYI - two Saturdays prior to the November election JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #31

After this, therefore because of this. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #45

If you believe in representative government then you are obligated to lobby your elected rhett o rick Jan 2015 #46

Rhett....none of us ever thought it would pass. We all knew we'd get msanthrope Jan 2015 #87

I'm happy for the Native Americans fadedrose Jan 2015 #32

Is this the same guy who just signed a bill de-regulating derivatives and allowing more .... Scuba Jan 2015 #35

wrong Shivering Jemmy Jan 2015 #77

So he vetoed the CROmnibus? Hadn't heard that. Scuba Jan 2015 #86

Kind sad in a way Andy823 Jan 2015 #38

It's not necessary to call people "trolls" that merely wish to encourage the President rhett o rick Jan 2015 #40

Never said that we should always go along Andy823 Jan 2015 #41

Yes, it's sad that Obama's most adoring fans are this desperate to cheer. Marr Jan 2015 #56

Really? Andy823 Jan 2015 #76

there are a lot of Left Leaning Independent curmudgeons on this site that is for sure! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #63

Good! Next VETO should be TPP. TBF Jan 2015 #61

This was just a threat in response to THEM.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #65

I have no issue with him - TBF Jan 2015 #72

They're going down kicking and screaming, VR. The ODS is strooooong. Hekate Jan 2015 #85

Isn't it though....MY GAWD....I am old enough to remember the Clinton Years AND all the way back VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #92

YOU feel old? Oh, honey, I voted for Humphrey and got flipping Nixon! Hekate Jan 2015 #93

Exactly.....sometimes its hard to recognize this place....I swear....its like upside down world! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #94

Elections have a way of changing the political winds... kentuck Jan 2015 #90

Actions speak louder then words........ ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #91

Oooo, is that the "pretty speeches" slur? He acts, checks off one promise after another, but... Hekate Jan 2015 #95