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Ron Green

(9,870 posts) Wed Jan 7, 2015, 08:09 PM Jan 2015

Any religion that can't stand ridicule is not doing what religion ought to do. [View all]

That is, bringing peace and accord to the world. And laughing at itself. And forgiving others. And leading by example.

What I've seen of "Charlie Hebdo" is ungracious and needlessly provocative, but whover's lampooned has got to learn to be big.

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Any religion that can't stand ridicule is not doing what religion ought to do. [View all] Ron Green Jan 2015 OP

it never ceases to amaze me... Scootaloo Jan 2015 #1

this. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #2

Well where did the op say "1.7 billion people are guilty of murder"? Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #5

Well, the entire religion is being held responsible. There's 1.7 billion Muslims on this earth Scootaloo Jan 2015 #8

Ah, so the poster never said that, you just made it up. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #11

No, that's exactly what is being said Scootaloo Jan 2015 #15

No, you really did make that up. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #44

the issue is that people are being killed for offending one and only one religion. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #13

Not quite true. That image has slaughtered countless brain cells Scootaloo Jan 2015 #16

Or this one, that was actually published in a well-known satire magazine REP Jan 2015 #18

and that same satire mag wouldn't dare run the Charlie Ebdo cartoons, for obvious reasons nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #19

Under O'Donoghue or Kenney, I'm sure they would have REP Jan 2015 #21

Have you seriously started reading DU like, today? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2015 #22

No, I'm quite aware Scootaloo Jan 2015 #23

so WHERE DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #59

Right, some socially inept, sociopathic college student kills people in Isla Vista and it is Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #32

That is because if they did not use religion as their excuse for their crimes, Jamastiene Jan 2015 #29

Again, where did the op blame all muslims? Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #31

And some of us choose to shove it up all the asses of all religious fundies. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2015 #7

Thank you! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #27

Nope, 1.7 billion people are not guilty of murder TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #58

^^ this times infinity CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #12

Well, I believe it TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #24

Well that was entirely divorced from reality CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #25

Edit post TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #26

Let me translate the OP for you. "Any Religion". Which part of any religion don't you understand? still_one Jan 2015 #28

Context of current events Scootaloo Jan 2015 #33

I don't see that in this particular thread for the most part still_one Jan 2015 #40

Yup. cwydro Jan 2015 #35

If the act is done in the name of the religion or for religious reasons, no. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #30

Distinctions not made in the OP Scootaloo Jan 2015 #34

Yeah, we don't want to make broad generalizations based on the actions of disturbed individuals Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #45

And Islam is, in fact, a person, singular. closeupready Jan 2015 #42

Who is saying this strawman of yours? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #49

As far as I am concerned, what religion ought to do is wither away into irrelevance, Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #3

Perhaps it ought to, but not likely Ron Green Jan 2015 #4

Every religion breeds intolerance of ridicule, criticism and opposition to it. backscatter712 Jan 2015 #6

So what's your excuse? Union Scribe Jan 2015 #39

Unhinged individuals committed this crime CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #10

The point of the OP is Ron Green Jan 2015 #14

What does that mean? CrawlingChaos Jan 2015 #17

What's in the news right now is the enormous tension Ron Green Jan 2015 #20

French Muslims have denounced the killings. This is not about an entire religion. This is about liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #48

John Fugelsang's recent tweet: Dr. Strange Jan 2015 #36

I love that guy!! Coventina Jan 2015 #37

Isn't that a Western/European concept? randome Jan 2015 #38

Humor, especially ironic or cynical humor, Ron Green Jan 2015 #46

Right because Islam is a person. closeupready Jan 2015 #41

In Japan for an international conference on religion, ... MohRokTah Jan 2015 #43

Who are you to say what any particular religion "ought" to do? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #47

And also -- WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #50

Uhm, you do realize that no religion exists that follows any of those suggestions of yours. n/t Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #51

Wrong. WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #53

Some religions of the NRM(New Religious Movements) perhaps, but many of them... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #55

Again, you can't say that about an entire religion. There are people in every religion that liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #52

Yes, I can say that about Islam. WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #54

Yes, I am. Western Muslims are very open to change. And even Middle Eastern Muslims are liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #57

People kill over non-religious insults as well jberryhill Jan 2015 #56