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Vengeance is mine, saith The Lord. eom rogerashton Jan 2015 #1
And at least one God discribed that way also speaks of the free will of mankind. jwirr Jan 2015 #54
You speak for me, MineralMan. 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #2
Yup. MineralMan Jan 2015 #5
Well, you miss the easy answer which is humans are the gods' agents on earth. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #3
That's silly. MineralMan Jan 2015 #4
It doesn't make sense to you because you have no spiritual feelings Fumesucker Jan 2015 #23
"Spritual feelings"? phil89 Jan 2015 #42
I have read a lot of MM's posts and am familiar with his philosophy, one we largely share Fumesucker Jan 2015 #50
Well, I don't believe that "spirits" exist either. MineralMan Jan 2015 #48
I don't have those feelings either Fumesucker Jan 2015 #49
A lot of people think a lot of things. MineralMan Jan 2015 #51
Beliefs to a big extent determine behavior Fumesucker Jan 2015 #52
Religious beliefs are as complicated as the religions that engender them. MineralMan Jan 2015 #53
who cares if you think it's silly. It's an alternative you didn't mention in the OP. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #55
Probably nobody. I'm not required to mention any particular alternatives MineralMan Jan 2015 #56
Except you begin your OP with a question and I provided the most simplistic answer KittyWampus Jan 2015 #60
Many simplistic things are silly. MineralMan Jan 2015 #61
Not an easy phil89 Jan 2015 #44
Which means, of course, that the proposed god isn't omnipotent Orrex Jan 2015 #66
There could be an omnipotent god, but logically, there can't be multiple omnipotent godS DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #6
Of course there can be multiple omnipotent deities. MineralMan Jan 2015 #8
I'm letting it go, becuase it's off-topic, but we do have different definitions of omnipotence. nt DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #9
Perhaps. But if all those deities get along, MineralMan Jan 2015 #12
the olde gods required sacrifices to appease their anger Baclava Jan 2015 #7
Ba'al, Schma'al. MineralMan Jan 2015 #10
You're on the list buddy Baclava Jan 2015 #19
I'm cowering under my bed, now. MineralMan Jan 2015 #20
showing some humility finally, well, that might keep you safe for awhile if you avert your eyes Baclava Jan 2015 #34
deities are just figments of human imagination" people see what they want to see belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #11
Or what they imagine they see... MineralMan Jan 2015 #13
A quote from Epicurus: panader0 Jan 2015 #14
A clever lad, that Epicurus. MineralMan Jan 2015 #16
VERY good, elleng Jan 2015 #32
oh good a person trying to define god belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #37
what is any evil but a misjudgment. Or a missing the mark. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #57
great post! Scout Jan 2015 #89
Blasphemy is a victimless crime. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #15
Indeed. MineralMan Jan 2015 #17
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn MohRokTah Jan 2015 #18
I hope he gets indigestion, then. MineralMan Jan 2015 #22
There is one great benefit to being a follower of Cthulhu MohRokTah Jan 2015 #24
I confess ignorance. 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #31
"In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming" MohRokTah Jan 2015 #35
Rather like learning to speak... 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #39
I've always been more of a Sci-Fi and Fantasy Fic fan. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #41
agree with you. 100% demigoddess Jan 2015 #21
An omnipotent god would know what you were going to pray... MohRokTah Jan 2015 #26
Maybe God is not totally omnipotent treestar Jan 2015 #63
Occam's Razor would suggest a different tack. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #64
There is some evidence treestar Jan 2015 #74
That is not evidence. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #77
You think that is evidence of a god? cleanhippie Jan 2015 #90
Religion isn't based on evidence treestar Jan 2015 #93
Your words: "There is some evidence" cleanhippie Jan 2015 #98
No. Human nature has no such requirements. MineralMan Jan 2015 #71
You'll never stop people wondering about how we got here treestar Jan 2015 #75
That's never my goal. I think people should wonder about many things. MineralMan Jan 2015 #79
I can live with not having all the answers treestar Jan 2015 #95
Here's GOD RobertEarl Jan 2015 #25
Atheists only believe in one less god than monotheists. eom MohRokTah Jan 2015 #27
K and R. nt cwydro Jan 2015 #28
The whole idea of an "omnipotent" deity unable to protect itself is as absurd as the people who Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #29
They wouldn't, MM, elleng Jan 2015 #30
If everyone could bring themselves to follow the "Golden Rule"... 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #36
Absolutely, 3cat. elleng Jan 2015 #38
It is what I taught our sons when they were young boys. 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #45
Sadly, most modern interpretations of the "Golden Rule"... MohRokTah Jan 2015 #43
'God' is everywhere and part of everything. Avalux Jan 2015 #33
And why continue with this failed experiment? Sweet Freedom Jan 2015 #40
Perhaps all the deities are purely evil and just like R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #46
If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion. Major Nikon Jan 2015 #47
Not really proof of no god treestar Jan 2015 #58
I never try to prove a negative. MineralMan Jan 2015 #59
It' kind of relative though treestar Jan 2015 #62
Not really. I don't live in 3000 BC. MineralMan Jan 2015 #68
Some people will wonder why we're all here treestar Jan 2015 #76
See, I'm not trying to eradicate religion. MineralMan Jan 2015 #81
It is not simplistic and magical treestar Jan 2015 #94
There's no need for a reason for existence. MineralMan Jan 2015 #96
Virtually all the big religions have defense mechanisms... backscatter712 Jan 2015 #65
Indeed, and that's the cause of much pain and suffering. MineralMan Jan 2015 #69
Because people have the ability to just make more stuff up to fit their narrative. chrisa Jan 2015 #67
Rationalization to maintain beliefs with no evidence. MineralMan Jan 2015 #70
Problem is with people who are gods in their own minds... haele Jan 2015 #72
Um..you would be trying to appeal to intelligence or logic...not "faith" right? nt kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #73
Uh, yes. That's always my emphasis. MineralMan Jan 2015 #82
Power can be used or not used. riqster Jan 2015 #78
OK. I personally don't believe in any "creator." MineralMan Jan 2015 #84
No worries. When discussing unprovable hypotheses, I find it best to be accepting of others' ideas. riqster Jan 2015 #88
You know what's fun, turn CNN on muted and read Christopher Hitchens NightWatcher Jan 2015 #80
Doesn't sound like fun to me. MineralMan Jan 2015 #85
Religion poisons everything. This is yet ANOTHER example NightWatcher Jan 2015 #87
Believers of unproven Deity are not rational persons seveneyes Jan 2015 #83
This thread is not about that, at all, despite the MineralMan Jan 2015 #86
Another alternative... Dale Neiburg Jan 2015 #91
No logic in that at all. What would be the point? MineralMan Jan 2015 #92
Of course it's not evidence *for*. Dale Neiburg Jan 2015 #97
There is no evidence for any sort of deity. MineralMan Jan 2015 #99
This is where the priest says "God works in mysterious ways, Zorra Jan 2015 #100
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #101
There aren't WestCoastLib Jan 2015 #102
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