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msanthrope

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45. I assumed you knew Sanders wasn't on the committee overseeing this. Committees often

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 04:39 PM

Jan 2015

restrict access and knowledge to their members. In this case, it looks like Sanders can read the TPP drafts, but his staff isn't allowed to. And Senate Finance is perfectly capable of hiring an expert if they need one.

The point I made about HELP is that that is one of Sander's committees. How well would he take a non-committee member (ted Cruz) demanding to send an expert over? Not well, I imagine.

Oh--you are talking about the FAC. Sure. I'm good with the top tier--

The access isn’t exclusive to industry. The heads of the United Steelworkers, Teamsters, United Auto Workers and the United Food and Commercial Workers unions sit with top corporate executives on the same presidentially appointed trade panel — the top “tier” of a an advisory system that includes around two-dozen committees.

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I Love How We Tend To Deny A "Rift" In The Democratic Party... On A Board That Should Say So... [View all] WillyT Jan 2015 OP

That is not a "brutal" letter. That is a fundraising one. I can see why Senator Sanders hired Matt msanthrope Jan 2015 #1

So When Do The Rest Of Us Get To Read It ??? - After It's A Fait Accompli ??? WillyT Jan 2015 #2

When it's finished. That's when we got to read the China and Cuba agreements and thats when the Iran pampango Jan 2015 #19

You're not distinguishing between two different issues. Jim Lane Jan 2015 #28

Anything ??? WillyT Jan 2015 #3

course not. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #8

Hello there! As I explained to Willy, some of us have children to raise, and from time to time, msanthrope Jan 2015 #13

Dude--some of us have children to put to bed, and wine to drink. I wasn't avoiding you, merely msanthrope Jan 2015 #12

So corporate CEOs can see it Oilwellian Jan 2015 #7

Um, Bernie Sanders can read it. Read the letter--Bernie can read it, but he wants his staff to msanthrope Jan 2015 #14

And Why Is That ??? WillyT Jan 2015 #17

It's pretty obvious, isn't it? This trade deal is a counterweight to China. You'd msanthrope Jan 2015 #18

This Is The United States Senate... And As Unimpressed As I Am With Most Of Them... WillyT Jan 2015 #20

Indeed..and Bernie's campaign manager doesn't have the right or the security clearance to msanthrope Jan 2015 #21

If The Trade Deal Subverts Democracy, And Trumps The U.S. Constitution... I Want EVERYONE To See It. WillyT Jan 2015 #23

Well, if it did, don't you think Bernie Sanders would have said that in his letter? I mean, Willy, msanthrope Jan 2015 #24

And I trust 600 corporate representatives to do THEIR jobs Scootaloo Jan 2015 #27

So why do CEOs have clearance? blackspade Jan 2015 #33

Who says CEOs have clearance? All Congressional members have clearance, but msanthrope Jan 2015 #34

And why are 'experts'/CEOs allowed to see pieces and not... blackspade Jan 2015 #36

Experts in the employ of Congress are allowed to see the agreement. msanthrope Jan 2015 #38

You are all over the place on this. blackspade Jan 2015 #42

No--I'm not all over the place on this. You seem to not understand that Sanders isn't on msanthrope Jan 2015 #43

That is a better explaination, thank you. blackspade Jan 2015 #44

I assumed you knew Sanders wasn't on the committee overseeing this. Committees often msanthrope Jan 2015 #45

Further on there is this.... blackspade Jan 2015 #46

No, "corporate CEOs" cannot see it. You should actually read the articles about the TPP Recursion Jan 2015 #29

Not true. many CEOs have access. blackspade Jan 2015 #37

Yeah, you should read that article some time Recursion Jan 2015 #47

Then there was some miscommunication or ambiguity on your part. blackspade Jan 2015 #48

Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #4

We didn't get to read the Patriot Act either. elias49 Jan 2015 #5

Great Point... WillyT Jan 2015 #6

I believe congress was only given 24 hours to read it before voting on it. L0oniX Jan 2015 #16

Most Elected officials claimed that they didn't bother to read it because... SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #39

K&R liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #9

Don't you love how you supposedly have no right to complain SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #41

i wrote to my legislators hopemountain Jan 2015 #10

If only the Democratic Party had leaders like this. Scuba Jan 2015 #11

du rec. xchrom Jan 2015 #15

Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe.. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #22

Recommend.... KoKo Jan 2015 #25

If only there were a significant rift. Orsino Jan 2015 #26

It's not a rift, it's a gap in purchasing power among 'supporters' HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #30

No rift but it's undeniable that there's a vested interest to constantly promote one. great white snark Jan 2015 #31

I'll See Ya Later If Hillary Announces... Rift City Here... WillyT Jan 2015 #32

+1, high majority of dems still like Hillary and Obama... like in the mid 80s or something... uponit7771 Jan 2015 #35

There is and will always be a rift within parties of a two party system. NCTraveler Jan 2015 #40