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blackspade

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46. Further on there is this....

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 04:48 PM

Jan 2015

Still, the process has left a sour taste for many, including important Democratic lawmakers such as Rep. Sander M. Levin (Mich), who has said that there should be a broad public debate about trade and more oversight of the details of the TPP talks.

Panel members “get face time [with top officials] . . . You can see them in intimate meetings, and that has value for anyone,” said Durwood Zaelke, head of the Institute for Governance and Sustainable Development and a member of the Trade and Environment Policy Advisory Committee.

“But there is a limit,” he said. “You do not sit and make policy for the U.S. trade representative, and you do not counterbalance the strong industry presence.

As an aside, as a writer, I hate these one sentence 'paragraphs.' It is a terrible writing style.

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I Love How We Tend To Deny A "Rift" In The Democratic Party... On A Board That Should Say So... [View all] WillyT Jan 2015 OP

That is not a "brutal" letter. That is a fundraising one. I can see why Senator Sanders hired Matt msanthrope Jan 2015 #1

So When Do The Rest Of Us Get To Read It ??? - After It's A Fait Accompli ??? WillyT Jan 2015 #2

When it's finished. That's when we got to read the China and Cuba agreements and thats when the Iran pampango Jan 2015 #19

You're not distinguishing between two different issues. Jim Lane Jan 2015 #28

Anything ??? WillyT Jan 2015 #3

course not. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #8

Hello there! As I explained to Willy, some of us have children to raise, and from time to time, msanthrope Jan 2015 #13

Dude--some of us have children to put to bed, and wine to drink. I wasn't avoiding you, merely msanthrope Jan 2015 #12

So corporate CEOs can see it Oilwellian Jan 2015 #7

Um, Bernie Sanders can read it. Read the letter--Bernie can read it, but he wants his staff to msanthrope Jan 2015 #14

And Why Is That ??? WillyT Jan 2015 #17

It's pretty obvious, isn't it? This trade deal is a counterweight to China. You'd msanthrope Jan 2015 #18

This Is The United States Senate... And As Unimpressed As I Am With Most Of Them... WillyT Jan 2015 #20

Indeed..and Bernie's campaign manager doesn't have the right or the security clearance to msanthrope Jan 2015 #21

If The Trade Deal Subverts Democracy, And Trumps The U.S. Constitution... I Want EVERYONE To See It. WillyT Jan 2015 #23

Well, if it did, don't you think Bernie Sanders would have said that in his letter? I mean, Willy, msanthrope Jan 2015 #24

And I trust 600 corporate representatives to do THEIR jobs Scootaloo Jan 2015 #27

So why do CEOs have clearance? blackspade Jan 2015 #33

Who says CEOs have clearance? All Congressional members have clearance, but msanthrope Jan 2015 #34

And why are 'experts'/CEOs allowed to see pieces and not... blackspade Jan 2015 #36

Experts in the employ of Congress are allowed to see the agreement. msanthrope Jan 2015 #38

You are all over the place on this. blackspade Jan 2015 #42

No--I'm not all over the place on this. You seem to not understand that Sanders isn't on msanthrope Jan 2015 #43

That is a better explaination, thank you. blackspade Jan 2015 #44

I assumed you knew Sanders wasn't on the committee overseeing this. Committees often msanthrope Jan 2015 #45

Further on there is this.... blackspade Jan 2015 #46

No, "corporate CEOs" cannot see it. You should actually read the articles about the TPP Recursion Jan 2015 #29

Not true. many CEOs have access. blackspade Jan 2015 #37

Yeah, you should read that article some time Recursion Jan 2015 #47

Then there was some miscommunication or ambiguity on your part. blackspade Jan 2015 #48

Kick !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #4

We didn't get to read the Patriot Act either. elias49 Jan 2015 #5

Great Point... WillyT Jan 2015 #6

I believe congress was only given 24 hours to read it before voting on it. L0oniX Jan 2015 #16

Most Elected officials claimed that they didn't bother to read it because... SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #39

K&R liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #9

Don't you love how you supposedly have no right to complain SomethingFishy Jan 2015 #41

i wrote to my legislators hopemountain Jan 2015 #10

If only the Democratic Party had leaders like this. Scuba Jan 2015 #11

du rec. xchrom Jan 2015 #15

Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe.. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #22

Recommend.... KoKo Jan 2015 #25

If only there were a significant rift. Orsino Jan 2015 #26

It's not a rift, it's a gap in purchasing power among 'supporters' HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #30

No rift but it's undeniable that there's a vested interest to constantly promote one. great white snark Jan 2015 #31

I'll See Ya Later If Hillary Announces... Rift City Here... WillyT Jan 2015 #32

+1, high majority of dems still like Hillary and Obama... like in the mid 80s or something... uponit7771 Jan 2015 #35

There is and will always be a rift within parties of a two party system. NCTraveler Jan 2015 #40