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kelly1mm

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33. Then I supose I am confused. What legitimate discussion is to be had involving 'hate speech vs.

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:13 PM

Jan 2015

free speech' then?

If we are discussing what is hate speech, then the protection granted that speech (hate speech or not) is immaterial. Thus no conflict between hate speech and free speech. (in the US)

If we are discussing free speech, the protection of which DOES NOT infer agreement with the speech, then again what conflict exists?

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If your response to terror is "Yeah that was awful, but here is a hundred reason why the victims [View all] Kurska Jan 2015 OP

Who is saying that? uppityperson Jan 2015 #1

Here let me just call out individual duers calling them jerks here I gooooo Kurska Jan 2015 #3

sorry, not meant to trick you. I haven't read this, except by a troll or 2 and thank you MIRT uppityperson Jan 2015 #8

Here is an example: Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #26

100% correct Roy Rolling Jan 2015 #40

I don't know why it's so difficult for people to just say: Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #2

WHY CAN'T I RECOMMENDED POSTS. EOM Kurska Jan 2015 #4

Go right ahead. Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #5

Thank you you're awesome Kurska Jan 2015 #6

I couldn't agree with you more. Boomerproud Jan 2015 #7

SPOT ON!!! calimary Jan 2015 #37

It's like saying "yeah, it's horrible that she was raped, but her skirt WAS very short" (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #9

Victim blaming suddenly becomes acceptable on DU Kurska Jan 2015 #10

Who has said that? n/t nichomachus Jan 2015 #19

no one Doctor_J Jan 2015 #25

I think there's a distinct difference between saying "it's like..." and "they've said.." LanternWaste Jan 2015 #32

Plenty of that going on right now in the Relgion Group. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #11

I view it as at least 2 separate issues: ecstatic Jan 2015 #12

The satire of Charlie Hebdo is not hate speech. Sorry but its not nt riderinthestorm Jan 2015 #15

I didn't say it was ecstatic Jan 2015 #17

Are you saying ALL Muslims consider it hate speech? I mean I guess that could be true the same randys1 Jan 2015 #51

Well they aren't separate when they are being discussed together, are they? Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #21

I haven't seen that phrasing but if someone has ecstatic Jan 2015 #27

I think it's just the opposite. yardwork Jan 2015 #22

I don't understand the 'freedom of speech vs. hate speech' part. In the US at least, it is not kelly1mm Jan 2015 #24

I agree. nt ecstatic Jan 2015 #30

Then I supose I am confused. What legitimate discussion is to be had involving 'hate speech vs. kelly1mm Jan 2015 #33

I shouldn't have said "vs." ecstatic Jan 2015 #36

Ok - thanks for the clarification. I think I was hung up on the 'vs.' too. Thanks again! nt kelly1mm Jan 2015 #38

Do you justify the murders of thousands of innocents in our oil wars? n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #13

I never supported the Iraq war EOM Kurska Jan 2015 #14

Your post does not make sense to me. pennylane100 Jan 2015 #16

That's not what the OP is saying... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #18

Oops, totally misread post. pennylane100 Jan 2015 #29

anyone who thinks CARTOONS justify murder Skittles Jan 2015 #20

It's not directed at anyone in particular because no one here said that Cal Carpenter Jan 2015 #23

Great post. nt Union Scribe Jan 2015 #31

See my post 26. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #35

I'm glad you're willing to take the time to do that. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #46

The Internet Armed Camp Syndrome. No nuances or deviation allowed, pick a side and fire away. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #42

...and exhausting. nt grasswire Jan 2015 #45

Nope, people here said that. jeff47 Jan 2015 #53

Talking to those who committed the murders is the best route to go... 1bigdude Jan 2015 #28

In every case in which Muslim terrorists have been asked about their motivations, Maedhros Jan 2015 #43

If someone drew anti-Semitic cartoons or caricatures of black people CJCRANE Jan 2015 #34

Read Juan Cole . . FairWinds Jan 2015 #39

Freedom dead_head Jan 2015 #41

Giving this a rec! Victim Blaming is NOT cool (nt) LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #47

Reminds me of this cartoon. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #48

Criticizing The Wizard Jan 2015 #49

Any time someone adds "but" to a sentence RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #50

Not always, but often. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #52