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10. Islam also prohibits alcohol.

Reply to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:53 PM

Jan 2015

Should we follow that rule also? Which other religious rules should non-believers be subject to?

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The Islamic prohibition against any depiction of Mohammed [View all] kwassa Jan 2015 OP

The standard "no graven image or any likeness" commandment that most religions ignore. arcane1 Jan 2015 #1

you are correct! kwassa Jan 2015 #3

It is "under any circumstances" which is the problem here. longship Jan 2015 #69

In Arabic, Islam translates to: “submission to the will of God” FrodosPet Jan 2015 #77

That is for those IN the religion that want to follow it. Has no importance for anyone else. on point Jan 2015 #2

I could see how this would be seen as a desecration by those who believe it as wrong. kwassa Jan 2015 #8

But they don't get to decide for everybody else melman Jan 2015 #13

I know. I am merely pointing out a point of conflict I haven't seen mentioned yet. kwassa Jan 2015 #20

OFGS, WE ALL KNOW WHAT MUSLIMS THINK. And the U.S. Bill of Rights ain't on their list. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #36

And how, pray tell so "MUSLIMS THINK"? Those I know believe in the US Bill of Rights. Have you a uppityperson Jan 2015 #59

I think there's an OP discussing that. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #70

And I have a tea party cousin who brags about his mixed race grandchild FrodosPet Jan 2015 #78

Thank you kwassa JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #76

That's their personal problem. They need to learn about the enlightenment. on point Jan 2015 #24

This is the bottom line. WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #71

And I have a feeling that the image below would be prohibited by the Catholic religion. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #4

Exactly. Catholics don't take the commandments nearly as seriously. arcane1 Jan 2015 #9

Except for the commandment against same sex sex, that they take seriously. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19

Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Jan 2015 #23

Do you know what a "commandment" is, as opposed to church teachings? (Hint: There are only 10 of the WinkyDink Jan 2015 #31

A teaching is learning something, a commandment is...a command? So you disobey the commandments Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #34

WHAT are you talking about? I never said the 10 C. were okay to break. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #41

Explicitly implying something that was not implied is a sin. Which Commandment is that, or is that a Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #44

Do you remember when those Opus Dei gunmen opened fire at the offices of "The Advocate"? FrodosPet Jan 2015 #80

I remember when the Bundy ranch couple went and shot 2 police officers in Utah, also incited by Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #81

Las Vegas is in Utah now? FrodosPet Jan 2015 #82

Thanks, yes, Las Vegas...in the information age hate speech spreads fast. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #83

So he was a hard luck pot dealer motivated by Alex Jones, not Jesus Christ FrodosPet Jan 2015 #84

Someone, please, help me...why do I bother? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #85

WTH are you on about? Ever heard of the sacraments of Confession and Absolution? Catholics WinkyDink Jan 2015 #38

I'm referring specifically to the Bible's firm prohibition on images in Exodus 20:4 arcane1 Jan 2015 #50

No pope or bishop would issue a fatwa against the author. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #21

Clearly, since it exists, the magazine was not "prohibited." (There is no such thing in Catholicism. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #35

No, the movie production codes were enforced for everyone for more than 30 years kwassa Jan 2015 #49

We saw what the Taliban did to the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #5

That was a massive crime. kwassa Jan 2015 #11

"Why learn about another religion, who cares what they think" says the poster named Jesus? uppityperson Jan 2015 #16

It's "jesus" a Spanish name Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #27

I know it's spanish/mexican etc, we had a turkey named Jesus, and yes pronounced properly uppityperson Jan 2015 #28

The name is actually had some parallels to this op. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #75

The origin of the word "iconoclast" for those who don't know. Bonobo Jan 2015 #6

I've been told there is no such prohibition in the Koran...? grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #7

It is in the hadith, a collection of sayings ... kwassa Jan 2015 #14

So it is second to the Koran Control-Z Jan 2015 #25

I'm just trying to understand where the behavior comes from. kwassa Jan 2015 #39

Did you not just write: Control-Z Jan 2015 #60

I am now because I went and googled it and read up on it. kwassa Jan 2015 #62

Thanks for educating us about this. uppityperson Jan 2015 #67

Islam also prohibits alcohol. delta17 Jan 2015 #10

There is no direct prohibition agains depiction of Mohammed in the Koran. Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #12

from the original article I quoted: kwassa Jan 2015 #17

Thus, my post is accurate. Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #40

Catholics have Commandments and they have teachings. The teachings are like Commandments, Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #42

Having been raised a Catholic and went to Catholic school and attended Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #46

And this is different than any other major religion.....how? I know they are all flights of fantasy, Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #47

Because religion is dangerous bunk. It is the biggest fomenter of turning human against human Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #54

And combining vulgar language with pornographic imagery and images of death to the religious? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #55

You do understand, that their vulgarity was not limited to Islam. Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #58

So? Codeine Jan 2015 #15

Relevance to what? kwassa Jan 2015 #18

You tell me. Codeine Jan 2015 #22

I made the point. You seem to think it needs to be relevant to something. kwassa Jan 2015 #29

So how do they know what he looked like....?? Historic NY Jan 2015 #26

Rather like King Arthur, Robin Hood, the Buddha (was he really roly-poly?), etc. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #45

And images of any other person. Hence, the beautiful geometric art. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #30

exactly! kwassa Jan 2015 #33

Funny, it's against the Jewish and Christian religions to do it as well... brooklynite Jan 2015 #32

What? Where is this in Christianity? WinkyDink Jan 2015 #43

Exodus 20:4 "“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above... brooklynite Jan 2015 #48

Yes, and so is the CONTEXT, which is about "having other gods," to wit: WinkyDink Jan 2015 #52

Some Islamic art kwassa Jan 2015 #37

There is no such prohibition in Shia and Sufi Islam. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #51

and these extreme fanatics are from the Sunni tradition kwassa Jan 2015 #53

I don't really give a damn what their religion might demand. Lobo27 Jan 2015 #56

Too bad. Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #57

Which Bastards do you mean? Just those 2 murderers or Islam, Muslims in general? uppityperson Jan 2015 #61

From what I understand, Control-Z Jan 2015 #63

Obviously the two survivors who committed this atrocity. Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #64

Thanks for clarifying and unfortunately it isn't obvious, been reading comments like that on other uppityperson Jan 2015 #66

They are free to voluntarily follow that if they so choose. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #65

This thread is mistaken: muslims have represented muhamad for centuries Albertoo Jan 2015 #68

I am not mistaken; read the sources I've quoted from ... kwassa Jan 2015 #72

The title of your thread is just wrong. Albertoo Jan 2015 #73

There has been such a prohibition in a large part of the Islamic world kwassa Jan 2015 #74

Bloodthirsty radical Islamists turned Muhammad into a cartoon long before brentspeak Jan 2015 #79