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Hate Speech vs Satire [View all] uppityperson Jan 2015 OP
I see hate speech as being about people, while satire is about ideas and actions. arcane1 Jan 2015 #1
Do you mean hate speech is against an individual, satire about the larger ideas? uppityperson Jan 2015 #4
Pretty much, yes. arcane1 Jan 2015 #6
I agree with you. It might be instructive to see what European countries define as hate speech/ KittyWampus Jan 2015 #9
The Scottish police monitor social media and investigate those who make "offensive comments". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #12
I'd also make a distinction between hate speech and a hate crime. arcane1 Jan 2015 #13
I appreciate your thoughtful replies. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #14
Hate speech, in and of itself, is almost never a hate crime (or even a crime at all) in the US. The kelly1mm Jan 2015 #16
If I call a Republican an asswipe it may be satirical randr Jan 2015 #2
All hate speech and satire should be legal Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #3
sometimes people get charged with "hate crime" on top of their other assholery crime uppityperson Jan 2015 #5
I'm a little wary of the concept of "hate crimes". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #8
The concept of "hate crime," seems like a "license to discriminate." immoderate Jan 2015 #27
What a great topic. Perhaps hate speech might be that which incites violence/harm KittyWampus Jan 2015 #7
"Imminent lawless action" is the standard. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #10
I dunno. Maybe something like: "Satire is when I do it. Hate speech is when you do it"? Iggo Jan 2015 #11
Quite a common approach. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #15
That's different. linuxman Jan 2015 #18
A couple of observations. In France, they have hate speech laws, Charlie Hebdo was sued under Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #17
And if such laws were ever passed here, watch the fundies scream about every other book or movie nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #28
kick for the night crew (usa centric) or whatever time it is wherever you are. uppityperson Jan 2015 #19
It's a very thin line, imo KMOD Jan 2015 #20
I reject the entire notion of "hate speech". nt Codeine Jan 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #22
Or maybe it's just crappy art Fumesucker Jan 2015 #24
Or how about justified self-defense vs unwarranted physical attack? nt greyl Jan 2015 #25
That's a great analogy KMOD Jan 2015 #26
Could it be that falsehoods are central to hate speech, and satire is based on truth? nt greyl Jan 2015 #23
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