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37. This is sad

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Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:28 PM

Jan 2015

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BREAKING: Police sources report six hostages at Paris supermarket are dead [View all] brooklynite Jan 2015 OP

Add them to the three innocents who died on Wednesday: NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #1

The three innocents? wtf were the other nine? melman Jan 2015 #8

That person saved ALL of his outrage for the cartoons, and has expressed geek tragedy Jan 2015 #13

Bingo. trotsky Jan 2015 #61

So you're back to saying that the Charlie Hemdo victims deserved to be shot. (12 killed, but only 3 geek tragedy Jan 2015 #12

Oh Hell no, none of them deserved to die. This was unjustified brutality. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #16

then why the "three innocent victims" comment about Wednesday. 12 people were murdered. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #18

This was a horrible murderous act, none of the 12 victims deserved to be killed, much less harmed. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #20

Kind of interesting how you didn't answer the question. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2015 #51

Oh, he answered it, all right. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #54

+1 trotsky Jan 2015 #64

I think the jesuisahmed tag gives geek tragedy Jan 2015 #63

Were all 12 victims innocent? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #78

WTF? Lobo27 Jan 2015 #132

That is what I am trying to figure out. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #133

+1... SidDithers Jan 2015 #22

The other nine were guilty? Guilty of what? arcane1 Jan 2015 #21

How do you reach that conclusion? NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #23

Make no mistake, this is victim blaming. RedCappedBandit Jan 2015 #24

What a sad war this has been, I see nothing good having come from it. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #29

id include your moral cowardice in that calculus nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #32

Abso-fucking-lutely... SidDithers Jan 2015 #55

Cartoons are not acts of war. n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #70

You admittedly don't consider the other 9 people innocent, so phil89 Jan 2015 #154

Ah, I see what you mean; those three weren't involved in the cartooning itself arcane1 Jan 2015 #31

Right, thank you! NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #42

Were all 12 innocent? trumad Jan 2015 #43

Innocent of what? NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #152

Are rape victims who dress too sexy innocent or just victims? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #79

All rape victims are innocent regardless of their attire, or lack of it. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #98

But, you have made it a point to NOT say they were innocent victims joeglow3 Jan 2015 #99

What the fucking fuckitie fuck? trumad Jan 2015 #38

war of cartoons and guns? progressoid Jan 2015 #107

wow fishwax Jan 2015 #146

How about the poster was saying 'three MORE innocent victims, added to the other nine'? sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #27

What a sad war this has been, I see nothing good having come from it. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #30

I keep remembering Michael Ledeen's pathological proclamations about the Iraq War. He must sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #36

Come on Sabrina.. trumad Jan 2015 #48

What I did was to express what I understood the comment to mean. Since that is still sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #100

I would like to see NY say 12 innocent people... trumad Jan 2015 #39

Not gonna happen... SidDithers Jan 2015 #60

Who is 'they', and could you post something to back up that claim, which appears to be sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #74

The poster is attempting to see just how vile Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #77

Yup. And he's got his little defenders trying to tell us what he really meant... SidDithers Jan 2015 #83

"little defenders"? NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #147

That is the same poster that posted about how much they seemed to like Jamastiene Jan 2015 #105

I deleted a few and left the original ones that express my view, to keep it simple for you all. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #157

Or you were worried about getting voted off the island. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #158

Several good DUer have been sending me PMs of support and warning. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #159

So you were in fact worried about getting voted off the island by those Bad DU'ers. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #160

I don't have a boat anymore. I just have a dock. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #164

Why? I got the point, I'm sure others did also. Nine were directly targeted, three sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #84

The way I see it, three were murdered, nine were assassinated, ALL were innocent. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #47

Distinction without a difference. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #53

I understand that. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #56

I guess then that three will be buried, and nine will have elementary schools named after them. nt Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #59

I have no idea what the conventions are for naming French elementary schools. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #97

Well, there are lots of those around 'Terrorist Act or Mass Murder' eg. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #73

But that's not what the poster actually said...nt SidDithers Jan 2015 #57

Then you didn't get the meaning of the post. Nine of the people murdered were the direct targets sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #75

Why isn't that clear? Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #85

Nope- sounds like you missed all his victim blaming self deletes yesterday. bettyellen Jan 2015 #92

I'm addressing the comment in this thread. Not the only time I've seen people lamenting on sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #96

Well, then you are giving the poster the benefit of the doubt- but those who have full context.... bettyellen Jan 2015 #104

As a Liberal I do try to do that. Certainly I try not to rush to judgement unless someone sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #108

and that is certainly a laudable approach. but the callouts are well earned after the silly little bettyellen Jan 2015 #111

So now it's a crime to self-delete? NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #148

You poor thing. BeanMusical Jan 2015 #149

Oh, don't worry. I'm quite unscathed by it all. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #150

Well bully for you. HERVEPA Jan 2015 #151

Yes, it's obvious that you're not affected by all this. BeanMusical Jan 2015 #153

LOL, no crime- but you're so ashamed of your words you need to backtrack and hide them? bettyellen Jan 2015 #155

Wow. I guess you haven't been reading many replies, bettyellen. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #156

the replies you self- deleted because you can't "stand with" them either? Funny little game.... bettyellen Jan 2015 #161

I don't get you, I don't get your apparent need to challenge me. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #165

what a load of condescending bullshit. calling you out for blaming these murders on the intended bettyellen Jan 2015 #166

I stand by every word I have said, and I stand with the targets of mean bullying cartoons. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #167

Alert stalking? AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #114

Could be, and judging by the 'sources' it wouldn't surprise anyone. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #117

It's pretty ironic, alerting because you disagree with another's POV.... NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #136

I don't think it even rises to the level of 'disagreeing' AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #142

Only those were innocent? Really? MineralMan Jan 2015 #40

I hope you and I are reading that wrong... trumad Jan 2015 #41

I don't think we are reading it wrong. MineralMan Jan 2015 #44

Wow! I mean Wow! trumad Jan 2015 #45

That is correct. trotsky Jan 2015 #62

Clearly. He has said clearly that blame is attached to MineralMan Jan 2015 #67

Oh fucck, not the self delete bullshit again. I hope someone saved the posts so we can bust up this bettyellen Jan 2015 #82

Sorry. I did not save them. I didn't expect them MineralMan Jan 2015 #88

You don't approve of self-deleting? I thought it was defended, by you I mean, as part of sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #122

How did you come to that conclusion? MineralMan Jan 2015 #139

You did say you wished you had saved them no? That would imply that you wanted to overcome sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #143

You keep stretching. MineralMan Jan 2015 #144

It doesn't puzzle you. I'm sure you understand perfectly. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #145

yesterday he was directly blaming the deaths of the policemen on the staff of Hedbo. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #137

Well, it looks like nobody preserved the pre-deletion posts. MineralMan Jan 2015 #138

Not surprised that this is what was deleted. It's disgusting, and would have gotten a well deserved bettyellen Jan 2015 #163

And unfreaking believable that you don't get what the poster was actually saying. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #80

I do not answer to you, sabrina 1 MineralMan Jan 2015 #86

Why not, my question was legitimate. If you can't answer it, then you HAVE sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #89

Do you believe that I must reply to your questions? MineralMan Jan 2015 #91

That's what I just said, it does speak for itself and I appreciate the clarification. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #94

NYC_SKP and I have had a discussion in this and related threads. MineralMan Jan 2015 #140

'I will only discuss my accusation AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #121

I discussed it directly with the person who posted it. MineralMan Jan 2015 #126

"None of those reasons have anything to do with you" AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #129

Why were the nine targets not innocent? trotsky Jan 2015 #87

Did someone say that? If so, could you link to it? Thank you! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #90

That's why I asked. I would like some clarification. trotsky Jan 2015 #93

So you can't link to it, thank you. My comment was clear, if you want to misinterpret it, that's sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #95

You believe three of the murder victims were innocent. trotsky Jan 2015 #101

Let me help you here. I am not one of those people who can be intimidated by sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #103

I am not trying to intimidate you. I'm asking you a question. trotsky Jan 2015 #106

Lol, I hate to be right sometimes. Btw, I asked YOU a question also, which you don't seem to want . sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #110

You asked your question after I asked mine. trotsky Jan 2015 #113

Sometimes all you can do is laugh. Which is better than targeting people for sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #116

I know you, and I know your heart .......... polly7 Jan 2015 #119

You are the epitome of what I meant when I spoke about those I respect, polly. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #120

You're a gem here, don't change. polly7 Jan 2015 #123

Lol! 'I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR!' sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #125

Oh yes you are!!!! polly7 Jan 2015 #130

you will never get a straight answer to that what you are looking for was self deleted bettyellen Jan 2015 #162

Dropped in my estimation yesterday. ALL were innocent. 840high Jan 2015 #102

Something wrong with your math there, skippy. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #52

Your morals do not withstand scrutiny. n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #69

You are in nefarous company with that attitude. Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #71

Being on the same side of an issue with Bill Donohue should generally be a giant red flag. n/t trotsky Jan 2015 #76

Congratulations Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #72

And yet somehow still be posting on DU. trotsky Jan 2015 #81

Gee, you never like anything I ever post. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #112

What? Your eyes are two different colors? MineralMan Jan 2015 #127

Oh look now you are the victim. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #135

I think I am going to be sick... (nt) LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #109

You seem to say some of the most insensitive stuff Jamastiene Jan 2015 #118

Great post trumad Jan 2015 #131

This. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #141

You just couldn't resist could you? Would your post mean less to you without the word "three"? kelly1mm Jan 2015 #134

I cannot find sources on Le Monde, but Mass Jan 2015 #2

Several sources saying they've been freed LittleBlue Jan 2015 #3

I have not heard any confirmation. HappyMe Jan 2015 #4

No confirmation on this yet....all Hedbo and Supermarket gunmen dead. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #5

Simultaneous raids on both hostage situations - @AFP Reports 2 suspects dead riversedge Jan 2015 #6

live Euronews saying hostages are OK (live feed) NRaleighLiberal Jan 2015 #7

I hope that's right...nt joeybee12 Jan 2015 #19

Everything I see says they are OK PAProgressive28 Jan 2015 #9

I saw hostages running out of grocery with my own eyes on MSNBC alcibiades_mystery Jan 2015 #10

Reports before the storming had said up to 5 were already dead muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #14

I'm also hearing that five hostages are dead... greatauntoftriplets Jan 2015 #34

Me? I'm just going to bury my head in sorrow till the whole thing is over. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #128

So what happened with the supermarket gunman's girlfriend? MohRokTah Jan 2015 #11

Although her picture was being shown, it wasn't known if she was at the grocery HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #17

There were clearly more than 6 people in the supermarket, so presumably some dead and some rescued brooklynite Jan 2015 #15

why don't you update your subject line so it's not so misleading and inaccurate? CreekDog Jan 2015 #49

Oh no ..... that's horrible. polly7 Jan 2015 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jan 2015 #26

As of ten minutes ago ... lpbk2713 Jan 2015 #28

From TPM - "Four hostages were also killed in the raid, according to French radio station France ... NRaleighLiberal Jan 2015 #33

France sieges: Hostages emerge from Paris supermarket..... Historic NY Jan 2015 #35

Not all the hostages emerge leftynyc Jan 2015 #46

This is sad Gothmog Jan 2015 #37

and may not be true actually. CreekDog Jan 2015 #50

France 24 is not saying six hostages are dead, why are you posting such a misleading thing? CreekDog Jan 2015 #58

It's currently saying 4 are dead (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #65

It's what they reported an hour ago (live on the air) when this was posted brooklynite Jan 2015 #66

BBC reporting 4 hostages killed RelativelyJones Jan 2015 #68

That's terrible LittleBlue Jan 2015 #115

. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #124