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In reply to the discussion: The Islamic prohibition against any depiction of Mohammed [View all]FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)82. Las Vegas is in Utah now?
Did they move the Nevada/Utah borders or the whole city?
Are they going to keep the "Sin City" nickname?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/las-vegas-jerad-miller-unraveling-infowars-alex-jones
Inside the Unraveling of Las Vegas Shooting Spree Suspect Jerad Miller
By Dana Liebelson | Mon Jun. 9, 2014 2:46 PM EDT
Two years before Jerad Miller and his wife, Amanda, allegedly gunned down two police officers and a third person in a Las Vegas shooting spree, before taking their own lives, he pondered when it might be justified to kill law enforcement officers on the website of conspiracy-peddling radio personality Alex Jones. In a May 28, 2012, post titled, "The Police (To Kill Or Not To Kill?)" Miller wrote on Jones' Infowars.com website: "I live in Indiana and recently a law was passed named the right to resist law. As i can make out from it, if a police officer kicks in my door and is not there legally, then I may shoot him."
His posts on Infowars depict an angry, down-on-his-luck man who blamed his woesdecaying teeth, lack of health insurance, and inability to find workon the tyranny of government. (Alex Jones has insisted the shooting spree Miller and his wife allegedly carried out was "absolutely staged" by the federal government.) The justice system became a focus of Miller's wrath following his arrest for selling marijuana. "Before I got arrested I had 2 jobs and was selling weed to my friends and family on the side," he wrote. "Now I cannot find a job. My probation officer states that if I protest that my probation will be violated. They have tried to tell my fiance, who has no criminal record, that she may not own a firearm if I live in the house. Now, i face a dire problem."
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In a post on June 26, 2012, Miller discussed how his life had unraveled since his arrest and how he couldn't afford dental care for a decaying wisdom tooth that had become a "painfull[y] infected hole":
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His posts on Infowars depict an angry, down-on-his-luck man who blamed his woesdecaying teeth, lack of health insurance, and inability to find workon the tyranny of government. (Alex Jones has insisted the shooting spree Miller and his wife allegedly carried out was "absolutely staged" by the federal government.) The justice system became a focus of Miller's wrath following his arrest for selling marijuana. "Before I got arrested I had 2 jobs and was selling weed to my friends and family on the side," he wrote. "Now I cannot find a job. My probation officer states that if I protest that my probation will be violated. They have tried to tell my fiance, who has no criminal record, that she may not own a firearm if I live in the house. Now, i face a dire problem."
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In a post on June 26, 2012, Miller discussed how his life had unraveled since his arrest and how he couldn't afford dental care for a decaying wisdom tooth that had become a "painfull[y] infected hole":
I have not seen a dentists in 14 years. I take good care of my teeth. The job market has been horrible. The few temporary jobs i find havent been able to earn me enough money to go see a dentist. Since I dont have insurance or medicaid the cost is around 500 to 1000 dollars. So as I sit here in agony, taking the penasilin the ER perscribed me I contemplate the state of things here in the good old USA. How the Gov. spends billions of dollars on the war on drugs and all these missles and bombs to kill people. I think about all that money that could do to helping people instead. Creating jobs, creating happy, healthy people. I dont want a hand out. I just need a foundation to stand on. One that wont be pulled out from under me as soon as i step up on it. Im a 29 year old american who has never once had a good enough job to have health insurance . I dont know what else to say.
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So were they Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, or what?
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The standard "no graven image or any likeness" commandment that most religions ignore.
arcane1
Jan 2015
#1
That is for those IN the religion that want to follow it. Has no importance for anyone else.
on point
Jan 2015
#2
I could see how this would be seen as a desecration by those who believe it as wrong.
kwassa
Jan 2015
#8
I know. I am merely pointing out a point of conflict I haven't seen mentioned yet.
kwassa
Jan 2015
#20
OFGS, WE ALL KNOW WHAT MUSLIMS THINK. And the U.S. Bill of Rights ain't on their list.
WinkyDink
Jan 2015
#36
And how, pray tell so "MUSLIMS THINK"? Those I know believe in the US Bill of Rights. Have you a
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#59
And I have a feeling that the image below would be prohibited by the Catholic religion.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#4
Except for the commandment against same sex sex, that they take seriously.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#19
Do you know what a "commandment" is, as opposed to church teachings? (Hint: There are only 10 of the
WinkyDink
Jan 2015
#31
A teaching is learning something, a commandment is...a command? So you disobey the commandments
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#34
Explicitly implying something that was not implied is a sin. Which Commandment is that, or is that a
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#44
Do you remember when those Opus Dei gunmen opened fire at the offices of "The Advocate"?
FrodosPet
Jan 2015
#80
I remember when the Bundy ranch couple went and shot 2 police officers in Utah, also incited by
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#81
WTH are you on about? Ever heard of the sacraments of Confession and Absolution? Catholics
WinkyDink
Jan 2015
#38
I'm referring specifically to the Bible's firm prohibition on images in Exodus 20:4
arcane1
Jan 2015
#50
Clearly, since it exists, the magazine was not "prohibited." (There is no such thing in Catholicism.
WinkyDink
Jan 2015
#35
No, the movie production codes were enforced for everyone for more than 30 years
kwassa
Jan 2015
#49
"Why learn about another religion, who cares what they think" says the poster named Jesus?
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#16
I know it's spanish/mexican etc, we had a turkey named Jesus, and yes pronounced properly
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#28
There is no direct prohibition agains depiction of Mohammed in the Koran.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2015
#12
Catholics have Commandments and they have teachings. The teachings are like Commandments,
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#42
And this is different than any other major religion.....how? I know they are all flights of fantasy,
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#47
Because religion is dangerous bunk. It is the biggest fomenter of turning human against human
Luminous Animal
Jan 2015
#54
And combining vulgar language with pornographic imagery and images of death to the religious?
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#55
Rather like King Arthur, Robin Hood, the Buddha (was he really roly-poly?), etc.
WinkyDink
Jan 2015
#45
Exodus 20:4 "“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above...
brooklynite
Jan 2015
#48
Which Bastards do you mean? Just those 2 murderers or Islam, Muslims in general?
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#61
Thanks for clarifying and unfortunately it isn't obvious, been reading comments like that on other
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#66