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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
82. Las Vegas is in Utah now?
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:14 PM
Jan 2015

Did they move the Nevada/Utah borders or the whole city?

Are they going to keep the "Sin City" nickname?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/las-vegas-jerad-miller-unraveling-infowars-alex-jones

Inside the Unraveling of Las Vegas Shooting Spree Suspect Jerad Miller

—By Dana Liebelson | Mon Jun. 9, 2014 2:46 PM EDT

Two years before Jerad Miller and his wife, Amanda, allegedly gunned down two police officers and a third person in a Las Vegas shooting spree, before taking their own lives, he pondered when it might be justified to kill law enforcement officers on the website of conspiracy-peddling radio personality Alex Jones. In a May 28, 2012, post titled, "The Police (To Kill Or Not To Kill?)" Miller wrote on Jones' Infowars.com website: "I live in Indiana and recently a law was passed named the right to resist law. As i can make out from it, if a police officer kicks in my door and is not there legally, then I may shoot him."

His posts on Infowars depict an angry, down-on-his-luck man who blamed his woes—decaying teeth, lack of health insurance, and inability to find work—on the tyranny of government. (Alex Jones has insisted the shooting spree Miller and his wife allegedly carried out was "absolutely staged" by the federal government.) The justice system became a focus of Miller's wrath following his arrest for selling marijuana. "Before I got arrested I had 2 jobs and was selling weed to my friends and family on the side," he wrote. "Now I cannot find a job. My probation officer states that if I protest that my probation will be violated. They have tried to tell my fiance, who has no criminal record, that she may not own a firearm if I live in the house. Now, i face a dire problem."

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In a post on June 26, 2012, Miller discussed how his life had unraveled since his arrest and how he couldn't afford dental care for a decaying wisdom tooth that had become a "painfull[y] infected hole":

I have not seen a dentists in 14 years. I take good care of my teeth. The job market has been horrible. The few temporary jobs i find havent been able to earn me enough money to go see a dentist. Since I dont have insurance or medicaid the cost is around 500 to 1000 dollars. So as I sit here in agony, taking the penasilin the ER perscribed me I contemplate the state of things here in the good old USA. How the Gov. spends billions of dollars on the war on drugs and all these missles and bombs to kill people. I think about all that money that could do to helping people instead. Creating jobs, creating happy, healthy people. I dont want a hand out. I just need a foundation to stand on. One that wont be pulled out from under me as soon as i step up on it. I’m a 29 year old american who has never once had a good enough job to have health insurance……………. I dont know what else to say.


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So were they Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, or what?

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The standard "no graven image or any likeness" commandment that most religions ignore. arcane1 Jan 2015 #1
you are correct! kwassa Jan 2015 #3
It is "under any circumstances" which is the problem here. longship Jan 2015 #69
In Arabic, Islam translates to: “submission to the will of God” FrodosPet Jan 2015 #77
That is for those IN the religion that want to follow it. Has no importance for anyone else. on point Jan 2015 #2
I could see how this would be seen as a desecration by those who believe it as wrong. kwassa Jan 2015 #8
But they don't get to decide for everybody else melman Jan 2015 #13
I know. I am merely pointing out a point of conflict I haven't seen mentioned yet. kwassa Jan 2015 #20
OFGS, WE ALL KNOW WHAT MUSLIMS THINK. And the U.S. Bill of Rights ain't on their list. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #36
And how, pray tell so "MUSLIMS THINK"? Those I know believe in the US Bill of Rights. Have you a uppityperson Jan 2015 #59
I think there's an OP discussing that. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #70
And I have a tea party cousin who brags about his mixed race grandchild FrodosPet Jan 2015 #78
Thank you kwassa JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #76
That's their personal problem. They need to learn about the enlightenment. on point Jan 2015 #24
This is the bottom line. WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #71
And I have a feeling that the image below would be prohibited by the Catholic religion. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #4
Exactly. Catholics don't take the commandments nearly as seriously. arcane1 Jan 2015 #9
Except for the commandment against same sex sex, that they take seriously. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19
Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Jan 2015 #23
Do you know what a "commandment" is, as opposed to church teachings? (Hint: There are only 10 of the WinkyDink Jan 2015 #31
A teaching is learning something, a commandment is...a command? So you disobey the commandments Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #34
WHAT are you talking about? I never said the 10 C. were okay to break. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #41
Explicitly implying something that was not implied is a sin. Which Commandment is that, or is that a Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #44
Do you remember when those Opus Dei gunmen opened fire at the offices of "The Advocate"? FrodosPet Jan 2015 #80
I remember when the Bundy ranch couple went and shot 2 police officers in Utah, also incited by Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #81
Las Vegas is in Utah now? FrodosPet Jan 2015 #82
Thanks, yes, Las Vegas...in the information age hate speech spreads fast. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #83
So he was a hard luck pot dealer motivated by Alex Jones, not Jesus Christ FrodosPet Jan 2015 #84
Someone, please, help me...why do I bother? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #85
WTH are you on about? Ever heard of the sacraments of Confession and Absolution? Catholics WinkyDink Jan 2015 #38
I'm referring specifically to the Bible's firm prohibition on images in Exodus 20:4 arcane1 Jan 2015 #50
No pope or bishop would issue a fatwa against the author. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #21
Clearly, since it exists, the magazine was not "prohibited." (There is no such thing in Catholicism. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #35
No, the movie production codes were enforced for everyone for more than 30 years kwassa Jan 2015 #49
We saw what the Taliban did to the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #5
That was a massive crime. kwassa Jan 2015 #11
"Why learn about another religion, who cares what they think" says the poster named Jesus? uppityperson Jan 2015 #16
It's "jesus" a Spanish name Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #27
I know it's spanish/mexican etc, we had a turkey named Jesus, and yes pronounced properly uppityperson Jan 2015 #28
The name is actually had some parallels to this op. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #75
The origin of the word "iconoclast" for those who don't know. Bonobo Jan 2015 #6
I've been told there is no such prohibition in the Koran...? grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #7
It is in the hadith, a collection of sayings ... kwassa Jan 2015 #14
So it is second to the Koran Control-Z Jan 2015 #25
I'm just trying to understand where the behavior comes from. kwassa Jan 2015 #39
Did you not just write: Control-Z Jan 2015 #60
I am now because I went and googled it and read up on it. kwassa Jan 2015 #62
Thanks for educating us about this. uppityperson Jan 2015 #67
Islam also prohibits alcohol. delta17 Jan 2015 #10
There is no direct prohibition agains depiction of Mohammed in the Koran. Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #12
from the original article I quoted: kwassa Jan 2015 #17
Thus, my post is accurate. Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #40
Catholics have Commandments and they have teachings. The teachings are like Commandments, Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #42
Having been raised a Catholic and went to Catholic school and attended Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #46
And this is different than any other major religion.....how? I know they are all flights of fantasy, Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #47
Because religion is dangerous bunk. It is the biggest fomenter of turning human against human Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #54
And combining vulgar language with pornographic imagery and images of death to the religious? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #55
You do understand, that their vulgarity was not limited to Islam. Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #58
So? Codeine Jan 2015 #15
Relevance to what? kwassa Jan 2015 #18
You tell me. Codeine Jan 2015 #22
I made the point. You seem to think it needs to be relevant to something. kwassa Jan 2015 #29
So how do they know what he looked like....?? Historic NY Jan 2015 #26
Rather like King Arthur, Robin Hood, the Buddha (was he really roly-poly?), etc. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #45
And images of any other person. Hence, the beautiful geometric art. WinkyDink Jan 2015 #30
exactly! kwassa Jan 2015 #33
Funny, it's against the Jewish and Christian religions to do it as well... brooklynite Jan 2015 #32
What? Where is this in Christianity? WinkyDink Jan 2015 #43
Exodus 20:4 "“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above... brooklynite Jan 2015 #48
Yes, and so is the CONTEXT, which is about "having other gods," to wit: WinkyDink Jan 2015 #52
Some Islamic art kwassa Jan 2015 #37
There is no such prohibition in Shia and Sufi Islam. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #51
and these extreme fanatics are from the Sunni tradition kwassa Jan 2015 #53
I don't really give a damn what their religion might demand. Lobo27 Jan 2015 #56
Too bad. Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #57
Which Bastards do you mean? Just those 2 murderers or Islam, Muslims in general? uppityperson Jan 2015 #61
From what I understand, Control-Z Jan 2015 #63
Obviously the two survivors who committed this atrocity. Dawson Leery Jan 2015 #64
Thanks for clarifying and unfortunately it isn't obvious, been reading comments like that on other uppityperson Jan 2015 #66
They are free to voluntarily follow that if they so choose. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #65
This thread is mistaken: muslims have represented muhamad for centuries Albertoo Jan 2015 #68
I am not mistaken; read the sources I've quoted from ... kwassa Jan 2015 #72
The title of your thread is just wrong. Albertoo Jan 2015 #73
There has been such a prohibition in a large part of the Islamic world kwassa Jan 2015 #74
Bloodthirsty radical Islamists turned Muhammad into a cartoon long before brentspeak Jan 2015 #79
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