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NYC_SKP

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36. Giving them an excuse to retaliate is not exactly "winning".

Reply to jeff47 (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:47 PM

Jan 2015

The binary POV is not helpful to finding solutions.

Sometimes it's best to wait until the right time to project the message, sometimes the message needs to be softened, or hardened.

Using reason to craft the most effective message is not "letting violence win".

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Why I am not Charlie [View all] ellenrr Jan 2015 OP

It is demonstrably clear. Outrage for some is very selective. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #1

Satire is hurtful to those who take themselves entirely too seriously Fumesucker Jan 2015 #3

That is one GREAT cartoon. (n/t) spin Jan 2015 #35

So everyone must watch what they say. jeff47 Jan 2015 #8

On this board, yes. There are people who don't like to read dissenting opinions. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #11

"But that's different" is a pretty lame excuse, especially when they're the same subject. jeff47 Jan 2015 #12

I think we -should- censor ourselves. Not everything that comes immediately to mind NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #17

So we should let violence win. jeff47 Jan 2015 #20

Hasn't it just won? And not because the journalists were circumspect. What's your argument, NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #29

Giving them an excuse to retaliate is not exactly "winning". NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #36

If they shut up Charlie Hebdo type criticism of their religion the next stage is any criticism Fumesucker Jan 2015 #39

The murderers were going to kill the satire upaloopa Jan 2015 #34

Good post malaise Jan 2015 #2

The I Am Charlie is a statement of solidarity with those who are killed for their ideas oberliner Jan 2015 #4

Actually the makers of South Park did get death threats. zappaman Jan 2015 #10

And Comedy Central ended up censoring as well (if it's the incident I recall) PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #15

Good for you. But I am. Shivering Jemmy Jan 2015 #5

And so am I brooklynite Jan 2015 #13

Muslims are 7.5% of the population in France, and generally poor. They're a marginal NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #18

But the cartoons are generally not about muslims in France; they are about muslims in general brooklynite Jan 2015 #19

The magazine is published in france, by french people, and read in france, by french NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #21

another one who just does NOT.GET.IT. Skittles Jan 2015 #6

Seriously. Desert805 Jan 2015 #22

Why would I join a Norwegian political party? jeff47 Jan 2015 #7

I get it. And I agree with you. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #9

Welcome to the small club... NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #14

Clearly not a satire enthusiast Desert805 Jan 2015 #23

Selective outrage indeed. Wonder why. One reason, I think, is that islam borders on NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #16

Your outrage Desert805 Jan 2015 #24

your outrage for the millions murdered by the US war & occupation machine is also duly NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #25

I'd say "nice try," Desert805 Jan 2015 #26

VERY poor Skittles Jan 2015 #27

In iraq we went to war over a lie. 150K direct deaths, up to a million indirect ones. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #31

... NuclearDem Jan 2015 #32

i do say. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #33

yup they just keep on digging Skittles Jan 2015 #38

Like I value your opinion.... NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #30

I denounce these murders and they did nothing to deserve it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #28

Thanks you for posting this. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #37