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Fumesucker

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39. If they shut up Charlie Hebdo type criticism of their religion the next stage is any criticism

Fri Jan 9, 2015, 11:45 PM

Jan 2015

Eventually any criticism of Islam will be strictly off limits.

Indeed, the most extreme Islamic position is that the very existence of non Muslims is an insult to the Prophet. Our good allies the Saudis are very close to that point right now.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/saudi-arabia-blogger-raif-badawi-public-flogging

A Saudi blogger who was sentenced last May to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes will be publicly flogged for the first time after Friday prayers outside a mosque in the Red Sea coastal city of Jeddah, according to a person close to his case.

Raif Badawi was sentenced on charges related to accusations that he insulted Islam on a liberal online forum he had created. He was also ordered by the Jeddah criminal court to pay a fine of 1m Saudi riyals, or about $266,000.

Rights groups and activists say his case is part of a wider clampdown on dissent throughout the kingdom. Officials have increasingly blunted calls for reforms since the region’s 2011 Arab Spring upheaval.

Badawi has been held since mid-2012, and his Free Saudi Liberals website is now closed. The case has drawn condemnation from rights groups.

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Why I am not Charlie [View all] ellenrr Jan 2015 OP

It is demonstrably clear. Outrage for some is very selective. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #1

Satire is hurtful to those who take themselves entirely too seriously Fumesucker Jan 2015 #3

That is one GREAT cartoon. (n/t) spin Jan 2015 #35

So everyone must watch what they say. jeff47 Jan 2015 #8

On this board, yes. There are people who don't like to read dissenting opinions. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #11

"But that's different" is a pretty lame excuse, especially when they're the same subject. jeff47 Jan 2015 #12

I think we -should- censor ourselves. Not everything that comes immediately to mind NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #17

So we should let violence win. jeff47 Jan 2015 #20

Hasn't it just won? And not because the journalists were circumspect. What's your argument, NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #29

Giving them an excuse to retaliate is not exactly "winning". NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #36

If they shut up Charlie Hebdo type criticism of their religion the next stage is any criticism Fumesucker Jan 2015 #39

The murderers were going to kill the satire upaloopa Jan 2015 #34

Good post malaise Jan 2015 #2

The I Am Charlie is a statement of solidarity with those who are killed for their ideas oberliner Jan 2015 #4

Actually the makers of South Park did get death threats. zappaman Jan 2015 #10

And Comedy Central ended up censoring as well (if it's the incident I recall) PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #15

Good for you. But I am. Shivering Jemmy Jan 2015 #5

And so am I brooklynite Jan 2015 #13

Muslims are 7.5% of the population in France, and generally poor. They're a marginal NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #18

But the cartoons are generally not about muslims in France; they are about muslims in general brooklynite Jan 2015 #19

The magazine is published in france, by french people, and read in france, by french NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #21

another one who just does NOT.GET.IT. Skittles Jan 2015 #6

Seriously. Desert805 Jan 2015 #22

Why would I join a Norwegian political party? jeff47 Jan 2015 #7

I get it. And I agree with you. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #9

Welcome to the small club... NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #14

Clearly not a satire enthusiast Desert805 Jan 2015 #23

Selective outrage indeed. Wonder why. One reason, I think, is that islam borders on NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #16

Your outrage Desert805 Jan 2015 #24

your outrage for the millions murdered by the US war & occupation machine is also duly NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #25

I'd say "nice try," Desert805 Jan 2015 #26

VERY poor Skittles Jan 2015 #27

In iraq we went to war over a lie. 150K direct deaths, up to a million indirect ones. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #31

... NuclearDem Jan 2015 #32

i do say. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #33

yup they just keep on digging Skittles Jan 2015 #38

Like I value your opinion.... NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #30

I denounce these murders and they did nothing to deserve it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #28

Thanks you for posting this. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #37