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kpete

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7. unfortunately

Reply to randys1 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:34 PM

Jan 2015

and with great sadness

I must admit -
randys1
you are correct

peace (i never give up),
kp

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Howard Dean: Paris attackers not �Muslim terrorists� [View all] kpete Jan 2015 OP

If they are Muslim terrorists than arent all white christian racists also terrorists? randys1 Jan 2015 #1

If they organize and commit mayhem in the name of religion they are./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #2

Lindsay Graham is alleging we are in a holy war, so I call him a terrorist... randys1 Jan 2015 #3

I can call my dog a bird and respectfully she still won't fly. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #4

the American govt, including under Obama (and that saddens me) has acted in ways that others randys1 Jan 2015 #6

unfortunately kpete Jan 2015 #7

But they aren't doing it (officially) in the name of some religion. AlbertCat Jan 2015 #50

Longer than 50 years by far. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #10

Correct. The terrorists define themselves. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #11

Lindsay "... pangaia Jan 2015 #22

By that loose definition Barack Obama is a terrorist as is every member of Congress./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #25

Terrorism has a definition. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #8

So if we drone someone or invade Iraq, that is war, not terrorism...I see, do you think that randys1 Jan 2015 #9

No, you clearly fucking don't. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #12

Lindsay Graham is promoting an attitude that can result in war, you can say it matters what the randys1 Jan 2015 #14

Well tanfastic for you. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #16

What a bunch of god damn bullshit randys1 Jan 2015 #17

No, he doesn't have the moral high ground. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #19

"Words have definitions"? candelista Jan 2015 #37

Using an unbelievably broad definition, sure. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #62

That statute conveniently defines state terrorism out of existence. candelista Jan 2015 #70

...^ that 840high Jan 2015 #30

You got it Howard madokie Jan 2015 #5

Should we avoid using "Christian" to describe the Westboro Baptist folks? oberliner Jan 2015 #13

When did Howard Dean become an expert on political or religious Islam? branford Jan 2015 #15

I think that's second year of med school, but if not hughee99 Jan 2015 #24

There is a Muslim community in Burlington - the city he lives in karynnj Jan 2015 #33

Killing a bunch of Jewish deli patrons seems religiously motivated to me./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #35

It is now, I don't believe this was so much the case hughee99 Jan 2015 #52

He lives there NOW -- and the statement was made recently karynnj Jan 2015 #66

oh for fuck sake. how pathetic. m-lekktor Jan 2015 #18

Dean is absolutely right, althought perhaps pangaia Jan 2015 #23

What criterion do you use to determine who is a Jew, who is a Christian, who is a Muslim, et cetera DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #27

Wrong question karynnj Jan 2015 #38

Since you choose to be snide, pangaia Jan 2015 #57

I'm not being snide. I just wouldn't be presumptuous enough tell someone they are not of a religion DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #64

It's shocking to me that this Desert805 Jan 2015 #76

Westboro Baptist Church isn't Christian? brooklynite Jan 2015 #45

The killers were muslims, just like the Westborough baptists are Christians. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #58

That's fine. pangaia Jan 2015 #60

Sadly the killers were muslims. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #73

Absolutely not true. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #74

Yes. 840high Jan 2015 #31

Dean is re-framing. joshcryer Jan 2015 #79

Amazing...everyone is missing the point. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #20

Ecumenical bullshit. nt greyl Jan 2015 #21

NRA: Mass shooters not "real gun owners" LadyHawkAZ Jan 2015 #26

Oh Christ almighty. Stop telling me that what I see isn't what I actually see. TwilightGardener Jan 2015 #28

+1 n/t zappaman Jan 2015 #29

+100 840high Jan 2015 #32

+12 Throd Jan 2015 #34

You cant blame an entire.... Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #49

And no one is . . . branford Jan 2015 #55

it's not like we put bible verses on the bombs we drop on them... lame54 Jan 2015 #61

This is the same guy who was against the "Ground Zero Mosque." SunSeeker Jan 2015 #36

Is it fair to say that the Klan was a domestic and Christian terrorist organization? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #39

Are those in the Saudi government 'not real Muslims', too, Dr. Dean? They seem to be setting a tone PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #40

I'll ask it again why are liberals so scared to say anything bad about Islam. Lobo27 Jan 2015 #41

+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #42

I am equal opportunity, all Fundamentalists suck, regardless of creed, color, gender, politics, etc. uppityperson Jan 2015 #44

Why do you think 'liberals are scared to say anything bad about Islam'? And btw, why do you sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #69

We can debate the subject for eternity, in my opinion. Lobo27 Jan 2015 #71

And anyone who does that, attacks all Catholics for the actions of a few, is also bigoted. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #72

Wow well said! Egnever Jan 2015 #78

One reason is they know it will encourage the haters and war mongers. Hoyt Jan 2015 #80

what, discussion about what people actually believe?! real analysis?! outrageous! MisterP Jan 2015 #43

I believe Dr. Dean was an internist.... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #47

Dr. Dean is correct Gothmog Jan 2015 #46

They're not true Scotsmen, either. DavidDvorkin Jan 2015 #48

Heh! nt branford Jan 2015 #56

Right-wingers want this to become a holy war. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #51

+1 KoKo Jan 2015 #54

That's what I think some of this liberal guilt is about Renew Deal Jan 2015 #67

Actually, the SMART way to go it to recognize the trrorists are ALSO right-wingers.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #68

Good luck with that...Yes, they were BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #53

big fucking cop out Dean lame54 Jan 2015 #59

they are muslim, although i do think ISIS is more of a criminal gang but Al Qaeda really does JI7 Jan 2015 #63

I love how people who are not Muslim proclaim who and who isn't Muslim. former9thward Jan 2015 #65

That means the attack on the Jewish market in Paris was workplace violence in his opinion. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #75

Dean is a cool guy but I don't always expect him to make sense aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #77