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Bluenorthwest

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22. So you know quite a few people who would be terrorists if not for their religion? Really?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 04:15 PM
Jan 2015

I don't know anyone who would be a terrorist at all. How can you now a multiplicity of people who would be terrorists but instead, they are religious?

Nationalistic tendencies obviously motivate lots of bloodshed. But so does religion. And not just killing but bullying, oppression, justice meted out unfairly and of course the fact that for LGBT people, we spend our entire lives being subjected to nonstop hate speech from many diverse religious quarters. Every day I read some story about clergy attacking LGBT people. Occasionally a 'person of faith' will speak out against them, occasionally. Not often. In the religious world, they see Pope Francis as 'pro gay' but he says we are inherently disordered and our rights are Satan's idea. He's about as good as they get on that side. Of course if any cleric said what Francis says about us about Muslims or a racial minority that cleric would be despised on DU, but since he says it about gay people DU says he's wonderful, progressive and equality minded. Inherently disordered...is it ok if I say that about you, or some group of people I wish to denigrate or is it only ok for Francis and other religious purveyors of hate? You tell me.


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This is not about religion. It's about extremists. onecaliberal Jan 2015 #1
It's not about edhopper Jan 2015 #3
Religion is the facade under which some seek to bend others to their will. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #7
Thank you. eom uppityperson Jan 2015 #10
Thank you for articulating the fact so onecaliberal Jan 2015 #18
^^This!^^ BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #24
It is also about religion because clergy on all three sides of the issues the Skidmore Jan 2015 #4
These days everyone speaks against Westboro Baptist, but the fact of the matter is they harassed Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #12
yes, RELIGIOUS extremists. nt m-lekktor Jan 2015 #8
I like the Religious tolerance websites definition LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #2
I'm not competent to judge such things, so I accept the MineralMan Jan 2015 #5
Nice summation. bluesbassman Jan 2015 #11
are they committing the act in the name of their religion ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2015 #6
McVeigh never claimed any religious motivation for the OK bombing. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #9
McVeigh told Gore Vidal in their correspondence he was agnostic. m-lekktor Jan 2015 #15
HE may not have stated religious motivation Runningdawg Jan 2015 #28
The OK City bomber did not in fact claim divine or religious inspiration. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #13
a real christian or real muslim is a person who demigoddess Jan 2015 #14
you don't get decide who is what. m-lekktor Jan 2015 #17
I'm looking at it from God's point of view demigoddess Jan 2015 #29
OTOH. How many people are motivated by religion to NOT become terrorists or harm people? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #16
So you know quite a few people who would be terrorists if not for their religion? Really? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #22
I've known terrorists that are motivated by religion. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #25
I'm not speaking in generaliaztions. I'm talking about specifics. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #30
I believe you are referring to the "no-true-Scotsman" fallacy phantom power Jan 2015 #19
I can give the answer for 'real Christians' that Jeus gave in the stories, he's pretty damn clear Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #20
I think we need version numbers for religions. CJCRANE Jan 2015 #21
We don't get to decide./NT DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #23
Only the really nice ones DavidDvorkin Jan 2015 #26
"Kilts and haggis may be involved." Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #27
Why does it even matter? Avalux Jan 2015 #31
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