I was just talking to a relative, who lives in France.

[LostOne4Ever]

38. Let me post links to your comments:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6062598

"Add them to the three innocents who died on Wednesday"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6066386

"Be specific.

Some of the victims of these murders had done nothing to offend anyone, others were engaged in a campaign of satirical attacks against extremism, and others were just doing their jobs.

In some ways, all were innocent.

Indeed, all were innocent of any acts deserving of murder.

All twelve were innocent of acts deserving murder and mayhem. "

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]You are saying that they were not deserving of murder and mayhem but that is not what you are being accused of.

No one is saying you condone murder, but that you think they brought retribution upon themselves. You even said at one point that they should have considered how their actions would put innocent bystanders in danger.

Not to mention making this thread:



Right after these people were murdered? Do you honestly not see how offensive your remarks are? You don't like their cartoons fine. Don't want to show solidarity with them because of that? Fine. You don't have to.

But a modicum of respect and empathy for the people's families, for those who are hurting, is that so much to ask? You are the one who is going on about respect, civility, and the like in religion. Is it too much to ask for the same from you here?[/font]

"I'm supposed to change my mind and say that people who chose to publish insulting vulgar cartoons were every bit as innocent as a person who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, ha.

No, that's never going to happen because it would be a LIE.

The nine CHOSE to engage in that battle of words, that use of satire and rhetoric toward those targets, and there was a certain amount of assumed risk. "

[font style="font-family:papyrus,'Brush Script MT','Infindel B',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]And this is exactly why you are getting a bad response. It is not nuance, or deep thinking. It is the definition of black or white thinking. They did something you didn't like or support so they must be bad people.

Charlie Hebdo was a left wing newspaper. It is very possible that those other victims were right wingers. You have no idea how innocent they were of supporting things you approve of or not, yet you no issue calling them innocent. But refuse to do so for the cartoonist....who were also at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Want to call the cartoons offensive? Go ahead. But do you have to victim blame and vilify? Can't you at least wait till the victim's body's are cold?[/font]