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Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
46. The Airlines now suck up to the 1%.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jan 2015

The rest of us can go to hell as far as they are concerned.

Just wait until they implement economy minus later this year. Seriously.

Give us bigger seats! Fatter profits might follow

Christopher Elliott , Special for USA TODAY 6:02 p.m. EST November 23, 2014

"One of the most troubling travel stories of 2014 was a report that airlines are considering a new class of service — and I use the term "class" loosely — called economy "minus."
These seats would have even less legroom and fewer amenities than those found in a standard coach cabin. JetBlue gave everyone a little scare last week when it announced plans to move its seats closer together and start charging for the first checked bag, so we know it's not an abstract idea.

If "minus" isn't already here, it's coming.

But ask passengers what they want, and they'll tell you that while they love cheap tickets, they have no desire to be wedged into a seat with 28 inches of "pitch" (that's a rough measure of legroom) or to have to pay extra for everything. It's dehumanizing.
"I don't want to be tortured," says Judy Greene, a musician who lives in New York. Durnford King, a TV writer based in Santa Monica, Calif., wonders, "What's next, rolling passengers up in bubble wrap and packing them in like sausages?"

Here's a better idea: Instead of adding economy "minus," why not expand economy "plus" — the so-called "premium" economy class section that's almost identical to coach sections before airlines were carelessly deregulated by the federal government in the 1970s? Consumers support the idea, and airline experts say it just might work. Passengers would welcome a more spacious cabin.

"I want it to go back to the way it was," says Willa Mathison, who remembers flying before airline deregulation and is now retired in Renton, Wash. Flying in economy class, she says, is almost unbearable, and she can't imagine it getting any worse. "We have cut back on our travel just because it has become such a miserable experience to be crammed in an airplane," she says."

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DUH Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #1
What gets me is they charge $25 per bag Quixote1818 Jan 2015 #2
And $100 for a second bag. tblue Jan 2015 #11
Only ASSHOLES would be against unions...unless it is police unions...maybe I have to randys1 Jan 2015 #54
Wish I was smart enough to get an MBA and figure out a genius business plan like THIS! hatrack Jan 2015 #3
I wonder if another unsaid dynamic is part of it Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #4
+100. Contempt indeed. They don't think those jobs are worth anything either. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #14
Taylorism Populist_Prole Jan 2015 #25
Here's the business plan RobertEarl Jan 2015 #8
This: ^^^ CrispyQ Jan 2015 #21
Just to be clear.... ALL costs are passed onto the customer... Adrahil Jan 2015 #33
I don't think Skywest below wing was unionized Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #5
Hopefully, those minimum wage employees won't supplement income by swiping luggage contents. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #6
Damn, if United hears this, they'll cut wages even more jberryhill Jan 2015 #12
... Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #53
Minimum wage = higher probability of damaged or scuffed luggage. Enjoy. TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #7
Gee, who could have predicted this? NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #9
Management doesn't give a shit... SoapBox Jan 2015 #10
The Airlines now suck up to the 1%. Tommymac Jan 2015 #46
Remember how deregulation was sold by saying it would make things better for the consumer? dflprincess Jan 2015 #64
New airline business model: take away everything a ticket used to pay for, make flying a misery... Hekate Jan 2015 #13
More than two decades. Carter deregulated the airlines. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #15
I don't see people cutting back on flying, though CrispyQ Jan 2015 #22
Exactly...people put up with it. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #27
And DIA is getting worried: kiva Jan 2015 #16
Thats the only thing that will get their attention Ruby the Liberal Jan 2015 #19
I live in a tourist city. kiva Jan 2015 #24
Damn the Cheapskates.. from Waltons on down Cha Jan 2015 #17
amen demigoddess Jan 2015 #63
Well my flight took less than two hours last November malaise Jan 2015 #18
I think Miami has about the worst Immigration clearing I've experienced. mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #37
I though everyone knew "United Breaks Guitars"? IdaBriggs Jan 2015 #20
And here I didn't think that United's "service" could get any shittier...... (nt) Paladin Jan 2015 #23
Fly United… Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #26
I live in Houston, which was a Continental hub cloudbase Jan 2015 #28
I got home to Denver on last Wednesday morning at 12:00 am at a frigid -13 degree weather.. The Shredder Jan 2015 #29
You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. GoneOffShore Jan 2015 #30
That's the free market gratuitous Jan 2015 #32
Rich people don't fly commercial. They all have their own jets and pilots. So bullshit the average valerief Jan 2015 #31
I have learned to pack a carry-on for a week's stay. MineralMan Jan 2015 #34
I do the same. I've done 2 weeks in Europe with only carry-on. OTOH I've had Delta mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #39
Meaning that it's just a matter of time before they charge for carry-ons . . . hatrack Jan 2015 #47
Some already do. MineralMan Jan 2015 #50
I have always said. Half-Century Man Jan 2015 #35
Interesting how there's nothing in mainstream media reporting this. mnhtnbb Jan 2015 #36
typical Capitalism: Provide the WORST service possible at the highest PROFIT Locrian Jan 2015 #38
I was a road warrior back in the 80's. Stonepounder Jan 2015 #40
Not to mention the potentially aggressive TSA agents. I won't fly anymore either. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #42
Same here Sherman A1 Jan 2015 #57
This trend toward crappy service so the higher ups can acquire yet more wealth is so frustrating. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #41
Sounds like the guys that run Pitney Bowes nt 7962 Jan 2015 #43
republican congress takes over and all goes to shit in a week. rurallib Jan 2015 #44
Where did you get the information that SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #45
The article indicated they originally used the airport's unionized baggage handlers BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #48
If you click through to the other articles SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #49
I think the article is only referring to what happened at *this particular airport* BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #55
Nothing in your aricle discusses unionized workers being let go SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2015 #61
The Denver Post article indicated that this was a shared responsibility BumRushDaShow Jan 2015 #62
Remember when the Trucker sulphurdunn Jan 2015 #51
I normally get mad at entitled yuppies who refuse to check their bags and instead cram them into the Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #52
Some MBA figured out Turbineguy Jan 2015 #56
Stupid bean-counting nitwits . . . another_liberal Jan 2015 #58
My husband works for United and they are jerking the union workers by not negotiating kimbutgar Jan 2015 #59
It'll be a nightmare scenerio... ReRe Jan 2015 #60
, blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #65
Always a good idea... czarjak Jan 2015 #66
We take the train for almost any longer trip. AllyCat Jan 2015 #67
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