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Ms. Toad

(38,648 posts)
95. If they don't have a tag that's fine.
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jan 2015

Your comment was addressed it to people without visible disabilities, not people without tags. Being able bodied enough to "dash" is not necessarily an indicator that the person does not have a disability you can't see.

For example, having an identified parking spot adjacent a door may be the only way for a person with memory impairment to find his or her car. That particular disability might not impair the ability to "dash" - but being able to park the car in a clearly identified location may make the difference between being self-sufficient and being dependent on others.

I had vertigo for a year recently - I didn't have a parking tag, but because of the particular kind of vertigo I had, dashing was much easier for me than walking slowly. I was most at risk for falling when I stopped moving.

I'm not an expert on all disabilities that are invisible, but I know enough people with invisible disabilities to know how much harder their lives are because people heap scorn on them based on the assumption they are faking it. Scowls are bad enough - but many are also verbally attacked, or their cars damaged, because it is assumed that they are taking spaces that others need.

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Hell no. I spent six years in the Air Force. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #1
ABC has a feature on police clamping down on these malaise Jan 2015 #4
No oneshooter Jan 2015 #2
No - it just seems totally wrong to do so. n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #3
I did. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #5
The people on my TV were not that lucky malaise Jan 2015 #10
I haven't, but I've seen the apparently non-disabled to it. I have a disabled relative, and NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #6
Some disabilities are not obvious. ncliberal Jan 2015 #33
Exactly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #55
I have Fibro also. Kalidurga Jan 2015 #67
which is why i said "not apparently disabled". My relative is over 80 and can't walk without NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #76
Considered doing it recently after massive surgery on my leg (technically an anterolerateral MillennialDem Jan 2015 #118
Very true Freddie Jan 2015 #155
Please work on erasing that presumption from your mind Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #75
The person I particularly remember had no tag or plate I saw. & I know what they look like, NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #79
If they don't have a tag that's fine. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #95
As my relation had to sit and wait for me to get a grocery cart so they'd have something to NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #107
The key difference is "without a tag" Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #109
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #183
But what happens when young folks deliberately use the vehicle of a person malaise Jan 2015 #149
Here is why that can happen -- for a perfectly legitimate reason. pnwmom Jan 2015 #137
as i said to the other poster, the young man had no tag. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #162
The post I responded to said nothing about a tag. That would have made a difference, obviously. n/t pnwmom Jan 2015 #169
You being a doctor and they must be your patients? CreekDog Jan 2015 #170
Yes LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #7
Not a problem for me malaise Jan 2015 #14
I have also driven those who are disable and parked in handicap for them. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #18
Same here SoCalNative Jan 2015 #152
So you jeopardized his placard for a lack of spare change? CreekDog Jan 2015 #171
Nope SoCalNative Jan 2015 #173
so you abused the Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #176
Well lucky for you I don't live in the US anymore SoCalNative Jan 2015 #178
lol Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #180
No, the placard wasn't valid when you used it CreekDog Jan 2015 #185
No, never. n/t Butterbean Jan 2015 #8
Well... I used my Mother's disablity sign when I broke my both my feet and an ankle hollysmom Jan 2015 #9
But you were temporarily disabled malaise Jan 2015 #13
well, it was not my sign. hollysmom Jan 2015 #20
You absolutely did the right thing, imo. See my post below. nt Hekate Jan 2015 #49
You're posting from the grave? Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #78
I died a few times, since I lost conscious, I can only repeat what I was told. hollysmom Jan 2015 #111
Fair enough. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #112
I can't think of any time that I have. Blue_In_AK Jan 2015 #11
Many times. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #12
No never shanti Jan 2015 #15
No. DawgHouse Jan 2015 #16
nope kydo Jan 2015 #17
I agree with you malaise Jan 2015 #19
Guilty. elias49 Jan 2015 #21
The only time I have is when I was driving a disabled senior citizen, and then I used her placard MiniMe Jan 2015 #22
I'm OK with that malaise Jan 2015 #24
Never. I have, however, called the cops when I see cars that don't belong in those spots. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2015 #23
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - love it malaise Jan 2015 #25
Hahahah! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2015 #35
I'd do it when delivering a pizza and it was closest to the door. linuxman Jan 2015 #26
That's where we differ malaise Jan 2015 #27
That's where we differ. linuxman Jan 2015 #29
and you are just the person I despise.. chillfactor Jan 2015 #90
Calm down. linuxman Jan 2015 #123
He was delivering a pizza, so that's only a minute Reter Jan 2015 #181
This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jan 2015 #28
You never know, though. I use my cane most of the time now, but for quite a while tblue37 Jan 2015 #73
BTW, we don't leave the placards hanging, because they become brittle from sunlight and heat and end tblue37 Jan 2015 #74
Do you have any basis for believing they print the signs themselves? Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #83
Really? You think they print the signs themselves? missingthebigdog Jan 2015 #88
no Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #30
No, and recently turned the offer of a handicap sticker. alfie Jan 2015 #31
Love it malaise Jan 2015 #32
Wouldn't dream of it. Conversely, I wouldn't call someone out for doing it... did that once. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #34
Hubby and I called out this guy who we knew wasn't disabled malaise Jan 2015 #36
I felt like such a dufus after calling this person out... no amount of apologizing made it better. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #37
So you answered your own question. This is the most common reason pnwmom Jan 2015 #142
None of the persons on ABC news tonight had someone malaise Jan 2015 #148
No! that is terribly inconsiderate easychoice Jan 2015 #38
Apparently very few people here have ever been the driver for a disabled friend or relative. pnwmom Jan 2015 #138
Only while I was waiting for knee replacement surgery and just after csziggy Jan 2015 #39
Nice post malaise Jan 2015 #41
I learned a lot going from almost completely disabled to not at all! csziggy Jan 2015 #59
Hubby had a horrible soccer injury and was using crutches for eight weeks malaise Jan 2015 #86
It does change your attitude! csziggy Jan 2015 #98
A friend of mine Turbineguy Jan 2015 #40
Yes those are the hard ones malaise Jan 2015 #42
Part of it was that people like me Turbineguy Jan 2015 #43
No matter the problem we never expect malaise Jan 2015 #45
I drive my father a lot Ex Lurker Jan 2015 #44
But your dad qualifies for the spot malaise Jan 2015 #46
Why should you feel funny about it when he needs it? pnwmom Jan 2015 #139
Only when with a disabled person who has a placard for my window. Hekate Jan 2015 #47
But you're not violating the privilege if you're helping disabled folks malaise Jan 2015 #51
Right; the designated driver is obligated to take care of the handicapped passenger.... Hekate Jan 2015 #106
I think public shaming in social media could also malaise Jan 2015 #150
Once. Thirties Child Jan 2015 #48
You have a bad back and don't use his card malaise Jan 2015 #56
Because "THE RULE" is that the permit is issued for a certain person elias49 Jan 2015 #77
I obey the law but the reason for the thread is that police are clamping down on persons malaise Jan 2015 #82
I'm more a 'spirit of the law' than 'letter of the law' guy, I guess elias49 Jan 2015 #102
TC, ask your doctor to validate your need for one. The permit is for the person, not the car. tblue37 Jan 2015 #80
nope backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #50
No, it always seemed like a stupid way to piss away 500 dollars Kurska Jan 2015 #52
Five hundred would be a bargain. Yikes: Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #132
Hell no. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #53
I saw our district superintendent take the only handicapped spot at a building. femmocrat Jan 2015 #62
ROFL malaise Jan 2015 #65
I've found out in life that those kinds of people get away with it while people that R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #68
Never, even for a second. Those are reserved for folks who need it. Hoyt Jan 2015 #54
I have a tag, and I often use it to park close. But on days when I tblue37 Jan 2015 #57
People are so thoughtless malaise Jan 2015 #63
Hogging the handicapped stalls? SheilaT Jan 2015 #87
As I explain in the post, we do understand when all the stalls are full, but when all tblue37 Jan 2015 #91
So how often do you actually walk into one of the restrooms and the only SheilaT Jan 2015 #120
Almost every day. My office is on the third floor. I often have to use the restroom tblue37 Jan 2015 #128
Why should the handicapped stall be the only one with its own private mirror? pnwmom Jan 2015 #144
I think that in a way having a baby with you when you need to use the restroom tblue37 Jan 2015 #145
Clearly you are experiencing a rather unusual situation. SheilaT Jan 2015 #167
Handicapped stalls are legally available to everyone. They are not like disabled pnwmom Jan 2015 #143
But when a regular stall is open, it is considerate to use one tblue37 Jan 2015 #146
Yes, it is more considerate -- but not legally required. pnwmom Jan 2015 #147
Nope. That is one of my absolute pet hates. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #58
No, but ... rogerashton Jan 2015 #60
See my post #57 above. nt tblue37 Jan 2015 #81
not on purpose samsingh Jan 2015 #61
Unintentionally. pintobean Jan 2015 #64
Never. 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #66
The only mercuryblues Jan 2015 #69
The people who violate disabled parking rules don't care about health malaise Jan 2015 #71
I think maybe I did once mythology Jan 2015 #70
That one was not your fault n/t malaise Jan 2015 #72
I have a disability and I have never parked in one Warpy Jan 2015 #84
I don't have a disability but I used to use disabled parking frequently pnwmom Jan 2015 #140
No Bluzmann57 Jan 2015 #85
I know first hand the handicapped privilege spots are abused. alphafemale Jan 2015 #89
Huh? malaise Jan 2015 #100
People violate the disabled parking spots all the time. alphafemale Jan 2015 #114
No. It seems unethical to me to even think about doing that. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #92
No, never. Have never considered liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #93
Nope, and it upset my mom... Contrary1 Jan 2015 #94
Nope, never. TDale313 Jan 2015 #96
I do all the time, while driving my disabled mother around. LeftyMom Jan 2015 #97
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - love your mom malaise Jan 2015 #101
Good for your mom. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #104
No. I recall circling a parking area, looking for a spot, Chemisse Jan 2015 #99
Looking for parking spots can bring out the worst in people malaise Jan 2015 #103
Yes. And I got a fake ticket for it joeglow3 Jan 2015 #104
Yes, but... meaculpa2011 Jan 2015 #108
Providing your Dad with a parking space is the very least we can do for him. lpbk2713 Jan 2015 #119
Never lunasun Jan 2015 #110
No*, but I will use the disabled stall in the restroom if it's unoccupied when I arrive, petronius Jan 2015 #113
Maybe if you are George Costanza. Initech Jan 2015 #115
I have a permit and hardly ever use it.... KentuckyWoman Jan 2015 #116
Only in the middle of the night at the ATM. roody Jan 2015 #117
No. Jamastiene Jan 2015 #121
No- I would never do that. Marrah_G Jan 2015 #122
Sometimes, when I'm chauffering my mother Retrograde Jan 2015 #124
If she has a placard you can use it in your car whenever you're driving her pnwmom Jan 2015 #141
Twas the day before Christmas ... kwassa Jan 2015 #125
The only time I've parked in a handicapped spot was when I was driving my grandfather around. tammywammy Jan 2015 #126
Nope, altough we have my MIL's handicapped parking permit MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #127
no but I have stopped my car in the crosswalk at a red light before. I get chastised by liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #129
No. kentauros Jan 2015 #130
NEVER DID until I got my Disability plate. napi21 Jan 2015 #131
I've done it by accident Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #133
no, absolutely f***ing not Skittles Jan 2015 #134
Me too! I think we're a rare breed, but my jeep is ding-free. (nt) Inkfreak Jan 2015 #182
Never have sakabatou Jan 2015 #135
You can't think of any reason? I am able-bodied but I parked in a disabled spot pnwmom Jan 2015 #136
I do, when I drive my mother spinbaby Jan 2015 #151
I never would, but ... Deny and Shred Jan 2015 #153
A seriously selfish human being malaise Jan 2015 #161
Of course not! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #154
Temporarily, when driving a disabled person somewhere. MineralMan Jan 2015 #156
Interesting discussion. I would add thucythucy Jan 2015 #157
You know I think we should teach human consideration classes to young people malaise Jan 2015 #158
Never have. nt MrScorpio Jan 2015 #159
I frequently see USPS personnel illegally parked in handicapped zones tritsofme Jan 2015 #160
Once by accident. Poor signage. I was so embarrassed! IdaBriggs Jan 2015 #163
Never tabbycat31 Jan 2015 #164
Those are handicapped priority. They're not exclusive. Iggo Jan 2015 #172
I could probably pipi_k Jan 2015 #165
Nope, not once. Iggo Jan 2015 #166
I have used one when I "needed" one TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #168
Only when I'm trying to pass as a Republican. Orrex Jan 2015 #174
no ileus Jan 2015 #175
Only when I have had a disabled person in the car with me. Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #177
Yes, plenty of times at this one place Reter Jan 2015 #179
No. phylny Jan 2015 #184
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