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rhett o rick

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54. Even when the people dont like what is happening, I dont believe they recognize
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:10 PM
Apr 2012

how to fix it. They are bombarded daily with garbage from the Corp-Media. They might know something needs to happen but I have no confidence they agree with you and me as to what needs to be done to fix it.

It isnt the two party system at fault. As long as American citizens rhett o rick Apr 2012 #1
Amen Brother... cbrer Apr 2012 #3
Unfortunately, the present system does not permit either side to wake up... kentuck Apr 2012 #5
In a practical sense, there aren't any options. Selatius Apr 2012 #10
In my opinion... kentuck Apr 2012 #13
Duverger's Law would tend to work against a third viable party from emerging here. Selatius Apr 2012 #20
The electoral college is the most important problem facing multiparty advocates. stevenleser Apr 2012 #21
no doubt... kentuck Apr 2012 #23
IMO getting a "rational candidate" to win against the SYSTEM is like rhett o rick Apr 2012 #27
It would not be easy... kentuck Apr 2012 #28
Even when the people dont like what is happening, I dont believe they recognize rhett o rick Apr 2012 #54
The US simply lacks publicly funded elections. That's why we always choose rich people. Selatius Apr 2012 #6
I agree and in addition, until we get a huge majority of the population willing to vote to change it stevenleser Apr 2012 #9
I don't think that is possible... kentuck Apr 2012 #11
I think it hurts DJ13 Apr 2012 #2
I think it is becoming a necessity... kentuck Apr 2012 #4
I'll go along with this gratuitous Apr 2012 #12
Well said. kentuck Apr 2012 #16
OK let's look at how to break out a third party. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #55
how is republicans and republican-lites a 2 party system? nt msongs Apr 2012 #7
It's the natural evolution of politics... kentuck Apr 2012 #8
Of course it hurts us. That was the founders' greatest mistake. DevonRex Apr 2012 #14
I've said it before: We have a 12 party system. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #15
destroys... nt Romulox Apr 2012 #17
It hurts badly because at this stage the debate is so damn phony but ever more partisan TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #18
It hurts, but it can be fixed with instant run-off voting like the Aussies do it. n/t Cleita Apr 2012 #19
I think the electoral college is an insurmountable obstacle to third parties. It has to go first. stevenleser Apr 2012 #22
I'm all for that. Cleita Apr 2012 #24
But, the electoral college only affects presidential elections. kentuck Apr 2012 #25
My point is, if a party can't make a credible bid for the White House, getting support for it stevenleser Apr 2012 #29
I don't think the present system is set up for a presidential bid... kentuck Apr 2012 #31
And in that we are in agreement, it is not set up for a Presidential bid, therefore the electoral stevenleser Apr 2012 #33
You assume that a Democratic President would not support... kentuck Apr 2012 #36
Winning a national campaign would still entail getting support from the same voters. Therefore... stevenleser Apr 2012 #40
I am just brain-storming but... kentuck Apr 2012 #42
The GOP changed radically with Reagan. All of the progressive legislation you mentioned is preReagan stevenleser Apr 2012 #50
Do you mean "centrist" legislation like...? kentuck Apr 2012 #26
Nope, no specifics. I meant just what I said. You will have frequent centrist coalitions. The issues stevenleser Apr 2012 #32
My point is that... kentuck Apr 2012 #34
I don't think so. I think the Republicans have successfully brainwashed their folks to the point stevenleser Apr 2012 #41
I would agree they do not like Democrats... kentuck Apr 2012 #43
Has nothing to do with Party label. They have thrown out Republicans who voted for these things too stevenleser Apr 2012 #44
Good people have the power of persuasion... kentuck Apr 2012 #45
Which people? Chomsky? Kucinich? Klein? Obama? Clinton? Gravel? Sanders? They are already speaking stevenleser Apr 2012 #49
OK, but how are you going to get the oligarchs to allow IRO voting? nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #59
Occupy the voting booth? Yes, they will resist so we must insist. Cleita Apr 2012 #62
Before we can replace those reps that have sold out to Corp-America rhett o rick Apr 2012 #63
True, but giving up is not an option either. n/t Cleita Apr 2012 #65
NGU, however we must realize that voting and sending emails isnt enough. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #66
The two party system was fine guitar man Apr 2012 #30
The system is broken and the oligarchs wont let you fix it. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #35
That is one option... kentuck Apr 2012 #39
If you want me to believe that there is hope, you will have to convince me that rhett o rick Apr 2012 #53
I think we should have four major parties meow2u3 Apr 2012 #37
I am a staunch supporter of the two-party system KamaAina Apr 2012 #38
Lewis Black on the two party system: Initech Apr 2012 #46
The "two party system" helps maintain the illusion of democracy in a capitalist state. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #47
Sh-h-h-h.... kentuck Apr 2012 #48
.. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #57
Helps. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #51
Hurts. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #52
Anyone who dislikes it is welcome to start a new party (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #56
So how do you feel about it? nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #58
One of my senators is neither a Republican nor a Democrat. Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #60
And yet he does not support starting a new party. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #64
crippling KG Apr 2012 #61
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