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48. True cultural alchemy isn't permissable to an average American, let alone religious fundamentalists.

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Sun Jan 11, 2015, 04:16 AM

Jan 2015

In its stead ferments the lamely-issued edict "The Others must die, for ours is the One Right Way to Live!"

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Political cartoonist Joe Sacco NAILs moral questions surrounding Charlie Hebdo attacks [View all] kpete Jan 2015 OP

Profound. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #1

k&r Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #2

Political cartoons can be powerful. This proves it. Bagsgroove Jan 2015 #3

Nice cartoon, four-eyes gratuitous Jan 2015 #4

Except that in some important respects, he really, really doesn't. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #5

Yes, but there's a larger point being made and it isn't the sophomoric provocation just for the sake KittyWampus Jan 2015 #8

So, the following is "sophomoric provocation"? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #11

No, he really doesn't. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #6

No, he really doesn't. Satire is about PROVOCATION. And it usually involves challenging the powerful KittyWampus Jan 2015 #7

Well, insulting Mohammed is challenging the powerful in spades. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #9

Yeah, Mohammed and his 1.7 billion followers geek tragedy Jan 2015 #12

Uh, Muslims are a minority in Western countries n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #24

Yet their faith is the only one geek tragedy Jan 2015 #25

How is that the fault of the Muslim population in Europe? n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #27

It's not. European Muslims are not a threat. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #29

Then I agree with you on that... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #32

The terrorists here were hoping to provoke such a response. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #33

Douthat and Chait have written some dumb stuff in their not so notable careers. His last sentence sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #35

So his ultimate reaction is that we should learn why the fact that geek tragedy Jan 2015 #10

Maybe It'll Be Easier To Accept Their Barbarity wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #14

Whatever you tell yourself to avoid blaming the killers. nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #17

No, Just Putting It In A Different Perspective wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #42

Limiting Satire to Nuance is limiting speech n2doc Jan 2015 #13

************* ~~~~~~~~~~ People won't read it but THIS PART: RIGHT HERE: NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #15

Satire is not a weapon. This is where those who can't bring themselves to geek tragedy Jan 2015 #16

satire is absolutely a weapon. Stop minimizing what satire is and its effect. Satire has a long KittyWampus Jan 2015 #18

So in your view the killings were a response in kind to a weaponized geek tragedy Jan 2015 #23

"a response in kind"? WTF? To ask that question or imply I said anything remotely like it KittyWampus Jan 2015 #26

You're arguing that satire is both a weapon and a provocation. geek tragedy Jan 2015 #28

Oh for fuck's sake, you, and the idiots who are offended smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #36

Tell it to targets of brutal homophobia and sexism in written and cartoon form, geek tragedy. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #19

Lines on a paper depicting an historical figure geek tragedy Jan 2015 #21

Of all the fights to engage in, the fight to draw Mohammed is the least important. Let it go. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #45

Tell it to the preachers and priests, mullahs and imams who spit venomous language against gay Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #37

It's not nuance. It's faux sophistication. Prism Jan 2015 #20

The old joke about a liberal not being willing to take geek tragedy Jan 2015 #22

This guy draws like R. Crumb. panader0 Jan 2015 #30

I thought so too kpete Jan 2015 #41

He absolutely does not oberliner Jan 2015 #31

He absolutely does ellenrr Jan 2015 #34

Any chest beating DU free-speechers got a problem with this? whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #38

Disagreeing with the message is not the same thing... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #39

Thanks Master of the Obvious! whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #40

Kick :) whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #43

Very thought-provoking, kpete. Tellingly, it is not a knee-jerk reaction, it's not simple.... Hekate Jan 2015 #44

I've been rather vocal in my disgust at equating bad satire with mass murder. nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #46

Sacco's books on Palestine, Gaza and Bosnia nilesobek Jan 2015 #47

True cultural alchemy isn't permissable to an average American, let alone religious fundamentalists. greyl Jan 2015 #48