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They represent the worst of Christian fundamentalism oberliner Jan 2015 #1
Excellent point Oberliner JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #2
No argument there, they are all distortions of their religion. Cloaking power lust with religion is Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4
There's no objective standard phil89 Jan 2015 #26
"distortions of their religion" - oh bullshit. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #100
George Bush's God demanded that we go on a Crusade into Iraq. I am a Christian and he sure as hell sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #102
And he had, and the neocons continue to have, plenty of support from religious leaders. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #106
You really think our War in Iraq had anything to do with religion? It didn't, but having a real sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #109
Absolutely. Plenty of fundamentalists are all for all out war in the middle east to bring about the Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #110
I thought I explained that. Fundies who want war as a fulfillment of prophecy are sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #121
Sabrina, a word of advice Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2015 #128
It is not a fallacy if the underlying facts are true. And a "Scotsman" is not a religion. A lot of Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #129
Apparently, you do not know what the "No True Scotsman" fallacy is Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2015 #132
Because it is an example of the no true scotsman fallacy. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #130
No, it is pointing to an extreme example, Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2015 #131
The Democratic Party has an official platform that is not "allegorical". Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #133
Christianity has statements about loving your neighbor that Phelps did not follow Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2015 #136
The fallacy is anyone accepts the fallacy as always applying. Only in Scotland apparently. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #135
Jesus leading a foray into the Middle East with flaming sword astride a Snow White snarling horse... Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #111
As in the OP, pangaia Jan 2015 #63
I'm a Buddhist and I love Jesus vlyons Jan 2015 #79
Precisely. lovemydog Jan 2015 #126
Extremist fundamentalists JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #3
Here's a book by Jimmy Carter on that subject... YvonneCa Jan 2015 #38
This. Sissyk Jan 2015 #120
That is the point I have been trying to make for days DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #5
Then I want no part of that Christianity, you are confusing self decleration with the reality of Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #8
What is your criterion for deciding who is and isn't of the religion he or she purports to be of? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #11
Well, killing folks or threatening them for not agreeing with ones religion while cloaked in white Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #12
Is the person who said this a Christian? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #15
You can be an idiot and still be a Christian, who would argue about that? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #16
Jesus said that. I'll give you a hint the same person said this: DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #22
No argument there. A very few still cling to these outdated notions that no longer belong. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #23
Then wouldn't it be fairer to say DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #27
Killing gays as an abomination to God, stuff like that, is not religion, it is hate. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #33
An outright majority of US Christians support torture Fumesucker Jan 2015 #42
Have atheists been polled on this? thucythucy Jan 2015 #52
Sorry, your surmise is not correct Fumesucker Jan 2015 #53
Good to know. thucythucy Jan 2015 #57
That is just plain sad. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #116
Here's an a article posted here just the other day about what athiest think and feel about torture notadmblnd Jan 2015 #64
Thanks! thucythucy Jan 2015 #66
Welcome! notadmblnd Jan 2015 #67
Hence the Bible = Hate Speech kevin.xiii Jan 2015 #65
"Killing gays as an abomination to God" - you know this how? Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #134
At least in Christianity that is the problem and why there are so many denominations. Anyone who jwirr Jan 2015 #82
I know you got upset with me yesterday DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #90
Thank you. I am also that kind of Christian. And I see where you were coming from now. Sorry jwirr Jan 2015 #92
Well, yeah, there are a lot of out there Muslims, Jews, Christians (and) secular folks. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #94
Explain this then.. Fumesucker Jan 2015 #6
Explain what? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
If you don't see something morally wrong with those poll results then you don't wish to see Fumesucker Jan 2015 #9
I have no idea what you are on about, truly. Maybe YOU could explain so I can understand. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #10
Your view is apparently that religion is supposed to convey a higher moral standard Fumesucker Jan 2015 #13
I think every religion's own view is they carry a higher moral standard, no? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #14
Hoisted on your own petard. Somewhere Socrates is smiling. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #18
Everyone is the hero in their own story Fumesucker Jan 2015 #19
They are all branches of the same rotting tree only lunatics would climb. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #25
Well in the case of Christians in the US it's actually the trunk not a branch Fumesucker Jan 2015 #32
It proves 39% do believe it, not 0%. treestar Jan 2015 #21
If the majority of a community believe something horrid perhaps you should rethink belonging to it Fumesucker Jan 2015 #24
Why? treestar Jan 2015 #30
You could set the same standard for the KKK or Al Qaeda Fumesucker Jan 2015 #37
There are no "perfectly wonderful Klansman or AQ members".....maybe you could point to one? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #39
Evidence? Fumesucker Jan 2015 #41
?? By the way, they are a cult, not a religion. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #44
And the outright majority of Christians who approve of torture unto death? Fumesucker Jan 2015 #46
Misled by a push poll. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #47
Hmm... a substantial majority of the non religious weren't fooled Fumesucker Jan 2015 #49
This is amazing to watch. Marr Jan 2015 #96
They are playing to their strengths Fumesucker Jan 2015 #99
That is so messed up........... Marrah_G Jan 2015 #34
So if they DON'T represent ALL Christians.... ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #17
Easy. Mariana Jan 2015 #119
just because many of us believe the terrorists DID do this because of their religious views m-lekktor Jan 2015 #20
"Fear everything, then give us the power to save you from the fear"....avoid at all costs. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #28
+1, well said. /nt Marr Jan 2015 #97
All religions are equally capable of inspiring horrors. Let's look at the slur laden comic #2 Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #29
Seperate the wheat from the chafe, dear sir. Throw away the chafe, it is worthless. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #35
Ah. So if a comic uses actual slurs to tell a lie about an oppressed minority group that's ok if the Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #60
World wide, the vast majority of muslims agree with the Westboro sentiment MNBrewer Jan 2015 #69
So do the vast majority of Russian Christians....I am not defending any religion in particular, just Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #71
K&R nt freedom fighter jh Jan 2015 #31
But ... but ... but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #36
The One True Scotsman fallacy, more common sense than fallacy, only applies to non-white folks, I guess. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #40
You've already poo-pooed the One True Scotsman fallacy and now you drag it out as a weapon? Fumesucker Jan 2015 #43
Free country. Oh, and being Scottish is not a religion, another fail of how folks are applying it. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #45
I'll take you just as seriously as you take yourself Fumesucker Jan 2015 #48
The "hue" issue is merely a coincidence ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #50
It wasn't only "Tea-Party Republicans" who opposed the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #51
As one can always unearth a few Muslims who do not represent the Muslim religion, you can also Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #54
56% of Democrats opposed the project Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #59
Thanks for this, Sanders LawDeeDah Jan 2015 #55
Rusty cogs.....good analogy...they need a little intellectual lubrication to free up the gears. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #58
Who is arguing that they represent all Muslims? However I would guess that the Muslims in your tritsofme Jan 2015 #56
I DON'T believe islamic terrorists represent all muslims... brooklynite Jan 2015 #61
Pretty low bar to be a welcome guest in a religion...just regurgitate some of the tenents, but do Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #62
People not in a religion don't 'welcome' anyone into a religion. I'd like them all to leave their Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #70
Let this be a turning point for all religions to expunge all the radicals that sully their name. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #73
agreed.... Burf-_- Jan 2015 #108
Name a position taken by Westboro that is inconsistent with Christian scripture. brooklynite Jan 2015 #75
Which ones, which sect? Which interpretation of the same words, which translation? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #78
If your argument is that we can't know what REAL Christian scripture is... brooklynite Jan 2015 #80
I can argue their interpretation is immoral, can't I? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #84
Based on your subjective morality, absolutely...not based on their religious faith. brooklynite Jan 2015 #88
Did Christian terrorist Eric Rudolph represent Christianity? cascadiance Jan 2015 #85
What is lost or unknown or not wanting to be known is that thousands of Muslims are dying resisting Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #91
And far more Muslims live in countries with dictatorships than Christians do... cascadiance Jan 2015 #95
Thank you Shamash Jan 2015 #68
Listening and watching the French today.......I love those folks..... what a lesson they are giving to Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #72
... SidDithers Jan 2015 #74
Our perspective is clouded by the fact that we are coming from randr Jan 2015 #76
As a woman I think they are both scary. WCLinolVir Jan 2015 #77
Exactly. As a woman, a strong supporter of women, LGBT and a secular society, Republicans are my PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #81
In the US we are far more threatened JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #101
they are still Christians and Muslims JI7 Jan 2015 #83
They are also men, women, and children.....I agree and stand with the French and their President, you are Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #86
extremists tend to be the same Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #87
+1 Enthusiast Jan 2015 #117
Thank you for the cartoons Gothmog Jan 2015 #89
First they fear you, then you fear them, then they kill you, then you fear them more and give Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #93
1.3 to 1.5 million folks (police estimate), marching through France to also say "these terrorists Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #98
Argumentum ad populum is yet another logical fallacy.. Fumesucker Jan 2015 #104
It is not an argument it is a reality shown everywhere in pictures. Total for all France is now 5 Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #107
It doesn't matter how many people say it, that does not make it true Fumesucker Jan 2015 #118
Growing up I attended The Door church on my mom's side of the family JonLP24 Jan 2015 #103
That second-to-last one just proves a worthy point. They sure have something big in common. calimary Jan 2015 #105
Great post! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #112
Thanks. The last line of the last cartoon covers a lot of bases in concisely explaining a few things Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #113
There are social factors at play beyond religion. Trillo Jan 2015 #114
OP makes an outstanding point. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #122
Well, progressoid Jan 2015 #123
In pictures .....OK...I can do this too. Burf-_- Jan 2015 #124
Wow, NYC_SKP and Fred Sanders agree on something else! NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #125
THE LAST ONE. AngryDem001 Jan 2015 #127
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