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SheilaT

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167. Clearly you are experiencing a rather unusual situation.

Sun Jan 11, 2015, 02:00 PM

Jan 2015

I've never seen a handicapped stall with its own sink and mirror. And if they're taking more than a couple of minutes, yeah, I guess that constitutes hogging. In this case some sort of education or information needs to be passed on, or even a simple sign that says something like "Be considerate of others. Do not take more than five minutes to do your business." What's going on in your building is a very specific problem that just doesn't apply to most places.

In most restrooms, the handicapped stall is simply larger with the support rails, and I doubt anyone takes an excessive amount of time, other than perhaps a mom with a couple of young kids. I'm never inside a stall more than a minute, so I am going to continue to use whichever stall I want.

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Assuming you have no disability, have you ever parked in a Disabled Parking spot [View all] malaise Jan 2015 OP

Hell no. I spent six years in the Air Force. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #1

ABC has a feature on police clamping down on these malaise Jan 2015 #4

No oneshooter Jan 2015 #2

No - it just seems totally wrong to do so. n/t Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #3

I did. Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #5

The people on my TV were not that lucky malaise Jan 2015 #10

I haven't, but I've seen the apparently non-disabled to it. I have a disabled relative, and NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #6

Some disabilities are not obvious. ncliberal Jan 2015 #33

Exactly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #55

I have Fibro also. Kalidurga Jan 2015 #67

which is why i said "not apparently disabled". My relative is over 80 and can't walk without NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #76

Considered doing it recently after massive surgery on my leg (technically an anterolerateral MillennialDem Jan 2015 #118

Very true Freddie Jan 2015 #155

Please work on erasing that presumption from your mind Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #75

The person I particularly remember had no tag or plate I saw. & I know what they look like, NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #79

If they don't have a tag that's fine. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #95

As my relation had to sit and wait for me to get a grocery cart so they'd have something to NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #107

The key difference is "without a tag" Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #109

Thank you JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #183

But what happens when young folks deliberately use the vehicle of a person malaise Jan 2015 #149

Here is why that can happen -- for a perfectly legitimate reason. pnwmom Jan 2015 #137

as i said to the other poster, the young man had no tag. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #162

The post I responded to said nothing about a tag. That would have made a difference, obviously. n/t pnwmom Jan 2015 #169

You being a doctor and they must be your patients? CreekDog Jan 2015 #170

Yes LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #7

Not a problem for me malaise Jan 2015 #14

I have also driven those who are disable and parked in handicap for them. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #18

Same here SoCalNative Jan 2015 #152

So you jeopardized his placard for a lack of spare change? CreekDog Jan 2015 #171

Nope SoCalNative Jan 2015 #173

so you abused the Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #176

Well lucky for you I don't live in the US anymore SoCalNative Jan 2015 #178

lol Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #180

No, the placard wasn't valid when you used it CreekDog Jan 2015 #185

No, never. n/t Butterbean Jan 2015 #8

Well... I used my Mother's disablity sign when I broke my both my feet and an ankle hollysmom Jan 2015 #9

But you were temporarily disabled malaise Jan 2015 #13

well, it was not my sign. hollysmom Jan 2015 #20

You absolutely did the right thing, imo. See my post below. nt Hekate Jan 2015 #49

You're posting from the grave? Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #78

I died a few times, since I lost conscious, I can only repeat what I was told. hollysmom Jan 2015 #111

Fair enough. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #112

I can't think of any time that I have. Blue_In_AK Jan 2015 #11

Many times. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #12

No never shanti Jan 2015 #15

No. DawgHouse Jan 2015 #16

nope kydo Jan 2015 #17

I agree with you malaise Jan 2015 #19

Guilty. elias49 Jan 2015 #21

The only time I have is when I was driving a disabled senior citizen, and then I used her placard MiniMe Jan 2015 #22

I'm OK with that malaise Jan 2015 #24

Never. I have, however, called the cops when I see cars that don't belong in those spots. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2015 #23

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - love it malaise Jan 2015 #25

Hahahah! CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2015 #35

I'd do it when delivering a pizza and it was closest to the door. linuxman Jan 2015 #26

That's where we differ malaise Jan 2015 #27

That's where we differ. linuxman Jan 2015 #29

and you are just the person I despise.. chillfactor Jan 2015 #90

Calm down. linuxman Jan 2015 #123

He was delivering a pizza, so that's only a minute Reter Jan 2015 #181

This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jan 2015 #28

You never know, though. I use my cane most of the time now, but for quite a while tblue37 Jan 2015 #73

BTW, we don't leave the placards hanging, because they become brittle from sunlight and heat and end tblue37 Jan 2015 #74

Do you have any basis for believing they print the signs themselves? Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #83

Really? You think they print the signs themselves? missingthebigdog Jan 2015 #88

no Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #30

No, and recently turned the offer of a handicap sticker. alfie Jan 2015 #31

Love it malaise Jan 2015 #32

Wouldn't dream of it. Conversely, I wouldn't call someone out for doing it... did that once. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #34

Hubby and I called out this guy who we knew wasn't disabled malaise Jan 2015 #36

I felt like such a dufus after calling this person out... no amount of apologizing made it better. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #37

So you answered your own question. This is the most common reason pnwmom Jan 2015 #142

None of the persons on ABC news tonight had someone malaise Jan 2015 #148

No! that is terribly inconsiderate easychoice Jan 2015 #38

Apparently very few people here have ever been the driver for a disabled friend or relative. pnwmom Jan 2015 #138

Only while I was waiting for knee replacement surgery and just after csziggy Jan 2015 #39

Nice post malaise Jan 2015 #41

I learned a lot going from almost completely disabled to not at all! csziggy Jan 2015 #59

Hubby had a horrible soccer injury and was using crutches for eight weeks malaise Jan 2015 #86

It does change your attitude! csziggy Jan 2015 #98

A friend of mine Turbineguy Jan 2015 #40

Yes those are the hard ones malaise Jan 2015 #42

Part of it was that people like me Turbineguy Jan 2015 #43

No matter the problem we never expect malaise Jan 2015 #45

I drive my father a lot Ex Lurker Jan 2015 #44

But your dad qualifies for the spot malaise Jan 2015 #46

Why should you feel funny about it when he needs it? pnwmom Jan 2015 #139

Only when with a disabled person who has a placard for my window. Hekate Jan 2015 #47

But you're not violating the privilege if you're helping disabled folks malaise Jan 2015 #51

Right; the designated driver is obligated to take care of the handicapped passenger.... Hekate Jan 2015 #106

I think public shaming in social media could also malaise Jan 2015 #150

Once. Thirties Child Jan 2015 #48

You have a bad back and don't use his card malaise Jan 2015 #56

Because "THE RULE" is that the permit is issued for a certain person elias49 Jan 2015 #77

I obey the law but the reason for the thread is that police are clamping down on persons malaise Jan 2015 #82

I'm more a 'spirit of the law' than 'letter of the law' guy, I guess elias49 Jan 2015 #102

TC, ask your doctor to validate your need for one. The permit is for the person, not the car. tblue37 Jan 2015 #80

nope backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #50

No, it always seemed like a stupid way to piss away 500 dollars Kurska Jan 2015 #52

Five hundred would be a bargain. Yikes: Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #132

Hell no. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #53

I saw our district superintendent take the only handicapped spot at a building. femmocrat Jan 2015 #62

ROFL malaise Jan 2015 #65

I've found out in life that those kinds of people get away with it while people that R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2015 #68

Never, even for a second. Those are reserved for folks who need it. Hoyt Jan 2015 #54

I have a tag, and I often use it to park close. But on days when I tblue37 Jan 2015 #57

People are so thoughtless malaise Jan 2015 #63

Hogging the handicapped stalls? SheilaT Jan 2015 #87

As I explain in the post, we do understand when all the stalls are full, but when all tblue37 Jan 2015 #91

So how often do you actually walk into one of the restrooms and the only SheilaT Jan 2015 #120

Almost every day. My office is on the third floor. I often have to use the restroom tblue37 Jan 2015 #128

Why should the handicapped stall be the only one with its own private mirror? pnwmom Jan 2015 #144

I think that in a way having a baby with you when you need to use the restroom tblue37 Jan 2015 #145

Clearly you are experiencing a rather unusual situation. SheilaT Jan 2015 #167

Handicapped stalls are legally available to everyone. They are not like disabled pnwmom Jan 2015 #143

But when a regular stall is open, it is considerate to use one tblue37 Jan 2015 #146

Yes, it is more considerate -- but not legally required. pnwmom Jan 2015 #147

Nope. That is one of my absolute pet hates. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #58

No, but ... rogerashton Jan 2015 #60

See my post #57 above. nt tblue37 Jan 2015 #81

not on purpose samsingh Jan 2015 #61

Unintentionally. pintobean Jan 2015 #64

Never. 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #66

The only mercuryblues Jan 2015 #69

The people who violate disabled parking rules don't care about health malaise Jan 2015 #71

I think maybe I did once mythology Jan 2015 #70

That one was not your fault n/t malaise Jan 2015 #72

I have a disability and I have never parked in one Warpy Jan 2015 #84

I don't have a disability but I used to use disabled parking frequently pnwmom Jan 2015 #140

No Bluzmann57 Jan 2015 #85

I know first hand the handicapped privilege spots are abused. alphafemale Jan 2015 #89

Huh? malaise Jan 2015 #100

People violate the disabled parking spots all the time. alphafemale Jan 2015 #114

No. It seems unethical to me to even think about doing that. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #92

No, never. Have never considered liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #93

Nope, and it upset my mom... Contrary1 Jan 2015 #94

Nope, never. TDale313 Jan 2015 #96

I do all the time, while driving my disabled mother around. LeftyMom Jan 2015 #97

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - love your mom malaise Jan 2015 #101

Good for your mom. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #104

No. I recall circling a parking area, looking for a spot, Chemisse Jan 2015 #99

Looking for parking spots can bring out the worst in people malaise Jan 2015 #103

Yes. And I got a fake ticket for it joeglow3 Jan 2015 #104

Yes, but... meaculpa2011 Jan 2015 #108

Providing your Dad with a parking space is the very least we can do for him. lpbk2713 Jan 2015 #119

Never lunasun Jan 2015 #110

No*, but I will use the disabled stall in the restroom if it's unoccupied when I arrive, petronius Jan 2015 #113

Maybe if you are George Costanza. Initech Jan 2015 #115

I have a permit and hardly ever use it.... KentuckyWoman Jan 2015 #116

Only in the middle of the night at the ATM. roody Jan 2015 #117

No. Jamastiene Jan 2015 #121

No- I would never do that. Marrah_G Jan 2015 #122

Sometimes, when I'm chauffering my mother Retrograde Jan 2015 #124

If she has a placard you can use it in your car whenever you're driving her pnwmom Jan 2015 #141

Twas the day before Christmas ... kwassa Jan 2015 #125

The only time I've parked in a handicapped spot was when I was driving my grandfather around. tammywammy Jan 2015 #126

Nope, altough we have my MIL's handicapped parking permit MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #127

no but I have stopped my car in the crosswalk at a red light before. I get chastised by liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #129

No. kentauros Jan 2015 #130

NEVER DID until I got my Disability plate. napi21 Jan 2015 #131

I've done it by accident Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #133

no, absolutely f***ing not Skittles Jan 2015 #134

Me too! I think we're a rare breed, but my jeep is ding-free. (nt) Inkfreak Jan 2015 #182

Never have sakabatou Jan 2015 #135

You can't think of any reason? I am able-bodied but I parked in a disabled spot pnwmom Jan 2015 #136

I do, when I drive my mother spinbaby Jan 2015 #151

I never would, but ... Deny and Shred Jan 2015 #153

A seriously selfish human being malaise Jan 2015 #161

Of course not! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #154

Temporarily, when driving a disabled person somewhere. MineralMan Jan 2015 #156

Interesting discussion. I would add thucythucy Jan 2015 #157

You know I think we should teach human consideration classes to young people malaise Jan 2015 #158

Never have. nt MrScorpio Jan 2015 #159

I frequently see USPS personnel illegally parked in handicapped zones tritsofme Jan 2015 #160

Once by accident. Poor signage. I was so embarrassed! IdaBriggs Jan 2015 #163

Never tabbycat31 Jan 2015 #164

Those are handicapped priority. They're not exclusive. Iggo Jan 2015 #172

I could probably pipi_k Jan 2015 #165

Nope, not once. Iggo Jan 2015 #166

I have used one when I "needed" one TexasMommaWithAHat Jan 2015 #168

Only when I'm trying to pass as a Republican. Orrex Jan 2015 #174

no ileus Jan 2015 #175

Only when I have had a disabled person in the car with me. Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #177

Yes, plenty of times at this one place Reter Jan 2015 #179

No. phylny Jan 2015 #184