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irisblue

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67. U Of Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State University & so on

Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:39 PM

Jan 2015

and all the big name state universities are Land Grant Universities, from Wikipedia..."The purpose of the land-grant colleges was:
without excluding other scientific and classical studies and including military tactic, to teach such branches of learning as are related to agriculture and the mechanic arts, in such manner as the legislatures of the States may respectively prescribe, in order to promote the liberal and practical education of the industrial classes in the several pursuits and professions in life."....With a few exceptions (including Cornell University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology), nearly all of the Land-Grant Colleges are public." Those universities are not going anywhere, ever. They operate from a federal law base, they are waaaayyyy too enmeshed in their local states, they will only close when that state does.
What is this about , really?

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Do you believe that Princeton, Harvard and Yale are fighting for their survival? [View all] CK_John Jan 2015 OP

How would they be put out of business? joeglow3 Jan 2015 #1

No kidding, not only will they retain their extreme prestige Warpy Jan 2015 #15

How would free community college madville Jan 2015 #2

A friend of mine did the CC-to-Stanford jump Recursion Jan 2015 #4

It's the for profit that is competing with main line universities. CK_John Jan 2015 #5

Not really. The for-profit schools aggressively recruit The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #12

I agree 100% with this. The Ivies have a whole different clientele -- the rich, the Nay Jan 2015 #34

+1. Ivies are in no danger; I hope to god for-profits are. But I fear state univerisities would NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #48

It's more likely to help the four-year state schools, I think. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #56

Harvard is an investment trust with a curio education sideline. It will do fine Recursion Jan 2015 #3

The Ivy League schools won't be affected by this proposal. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #6

This proposal will re-frame the whole university education system. CK_John Jan 2015 #8

I just hired a woman who went to a local community college for her first two years, Sheldon Cooper Jan 2015 #9

Pay her 100% instead of the standard 76%. CK_John Jan 2015 #16

I'll be honest... I've had terrible luck with halfsies graduates. Adrahil Jan 2015 #24

Here are my Counter Conspiracy Theories for You daredtowork Jan 2015 #7

No conspiracy just my opinion, Harvard accepted 2100 a year while The University of Phoenix CK_John Jan 2015 #10

Do employers even take "degrees" from U Phoenix seriously? cyberswede Jan 2015 #11

Yes, the federal government is one, also teacher graduate degrees are popular. CK_John Jan 2015 #13

Oh nonsense tkmorris Jan 2015 #23

I doubt very much that a degree from a for-profit online school The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #14

I'm concerned about the success of the proposed free community college not CK_John Jan 2015 #17

Not at my company. n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #25

Yes, unfortunately. My former workplace did and it is started to suffer from Nay Jan 2015 #35

The resume scanner doesn't care. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #78

How Many Kids Applied erpowers Jan 2015 #18

So. CK_John Jan 2015 #19

So, Harvard Is Not Struggling for Suurvival erpowers Jan 2015 #30

Harvard became more selective daredtowork Jan 2015 #22

No Harvard wants to stay exclusive. AngryAmish Jan 2015 #41

Harvard will be affect also since the states will have pony up about 25 % CK_John Jan 2015 #46

Congress will not determine accreditation or student transfers . The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #58

Your first sentence has grammatical errors AndreaCG Jan 2015 #68

I have a conspiracy theory too. When I was a kid, my right wing relatives used to laugh at NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #50

Well 1/2 of graduates are unemployed or underemployed and the rest are CK_John Jan 2015 #52

A rider to your Conspiracy Theory daredtowork Jan 2015 #55

I have no idea what you are trying to say. My opinion is about the reason behind CK_John Jan 2015 #61

How big is Harvard's endowment? Retrograde Jan 2015 #20

Will Congress pass this proposal for free 2yr college plan? CK_John Jan 2015 #21

Not multimillions, multi billions Krytan11c Jan 2015 #26

Probably astronomical. CTyankee Jan 2015 #44

Think out of box, this is about the whole higher ed system. CK_John Jan 2015 #47

The first word is more important than the next three. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #60

The Ivies will be just fine. The diploma mills should and will die. Personally, I think this is a napi21 Jan 2015 #27

Ivy folk do not go to community college. oldandhappy Jan 2015 #28

Wrong again ... GeorgeGist Jan 2015 #29

lmao. i know, laughing some more. i know. i am pondering what it really is about. nt seabeyond Jan 2015 #39

They aren't for profit SteveG Jan 2015 #31

Thanks for that list. It shows what the mainline universities are up against. CK_John Jan 2015 #33

They'll survive SteveG Jan 2015 #36

When just 1 of those for profits has 227,000 enrolled you have to be alarmed CK_John Jan 2015 #37

U Of Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State University & so on irisblue Jan 2015 #67

No. n/t tammywammy Jan 2015 #32

you put out the most outrageous statements ignoring so much of an issue, to arrive at an extreme. seabeyond Jan 2015 #38

Your opinion, which I think is head in the sand thinking. CK_John Jan 2015 #40

mmm hmm seabeyond Jan 2015 #42

Do you have any clue what TBF Jan 2015 #43

with Harvard rejecting 96% of applicants, Yale and Princeton 93%, I doubt DrDan Jan 2015 #45

Not quite Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2015 #49

Yes, as posted in the OP. CK_John Jan 2015 #51

The Ivies are picking up even more steam right now if anything. Exultant Democracy Jan 2015 #53

People who attend Yale, Harvard and Princeton are not paying for the education notadmblnd Jan 2015 #54

That's largely true. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #63

George W. AWOL Bush, a high-functioning imbecile, has a degree from Yale tabasco Jan 2015 #57

W was a legacy admission. All colleges are stuck with a few of those. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2015 #62

Um....no. jeff47 Jan 2015 #59

Free Communitty College wont even hurt for profits. spyker29 Jan 2015 #64

no. spanone Jan 2015 #65

Are you kidding? Harvard. e.g., has a $36-BILLION-dollar endowment! WinkyDink Jan 2015 #66

Yale owes and runs New Haven. bigwillq Jan 2015 #69

I think the four-year schools will be better off under a universal CC regime jmowreader Jan 2015 #70

not to mention the decrease in the number of sections of remedial skills classes. salin Jan 2015 #71

Are you nuts? salin Jan 2015 #72

What? MFrohike Jan 2015 #73

But this proposal is DOA WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2015 #74

They are all quaking in their boots because of competition from the University of Phoenix! FSogol Jan 2015 #75

The Ivy League is in trouble DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #76

Harvard had 30 billion dollars in their endowment. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #77

Those schools have enormous endowments BainsBane Jan 2015 #79