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beevul

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61. From a couple posts down...
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jan 2015

Last edited Mon Jan 12, 2015, 04:17 PM - Edit history (1)

From a couple posts down...

"I've also asked the school board,to make a part of every day, some kind of anti-violence anti-gun message, every day every school at every level. One thing that I think is clear with young people, and with adults as well, is that we just have to be repetitive about this, its not enough to have a catchy ad on a Monday and only do it every Monday, we need to do this every of the week, and really just brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way."


Does it sound to you, like the kids in schooling under those school boards referred to above, have any choice in the matter?

So "mandatory" is a red herring at best.

Contrived distinctions without any meaningful tangible differences, don't suddenly become the huge differences you say they are, simply because you said so. But lets examine this a little farther:

"difficult to realize the difference between an mandatory class which affects GPA and a 'message'"


In this this "mandatory" class...you'd be ok with it teaching the bill of rights minus the current legal interpretation of amendment 2, right? Or you'd be ok with it teaching the "collective rights" interpretation of amendment 2, right?

Should schools teach the bill of rights and just skip amendment 2?

What do you think they SHOULD do, in schools, where amendment 2 is concerned, since they DO teach the bill of rights, and amendment 2 is a part of it?

But that's neither here nor there...


This thread is chocked full of posts about propaganda and indoctrination, which ignore completely one example, while piling on the other. Posts by people who are clearly anti-gun, and have an anti-gun posting history.

Which was the point. Scratch an anti-gunner, and routinely, you uncover a hypocrite willing ready and able to chastise the other side for doing X, while turning a blind eye to people from their own side of the issue doing that very same X.

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What a crock of poo. isobar Jan 2015 #1
Hey... 2naSalit Jan 2015 #52
What an idiotic idea. nt hack89 Jan 2015 #2
Wow, you and I actually agree on something gun related for a change. Electric Monk Jan 2015 #43
You and I most likely agree on many things when it comes to guns hack89 Jan 2015 #45
Teach kids the right way to handle a weapon when striking your school, employer, etc... nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #3
Teaching kids to kill is just sad jen1980 Jan 2015 #4
But they don't advocate manatory classes for gun owners ... BRILLIANT!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2015 #5
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Jan 2015 #8
Guns don't have rights...people do. ileus Jan 2015 #6
They also want Dec 15th designated as 'Second Amendment Awareness Day' petronius Jan 2015 #7
Guns have more rights than people in this country. Is this really necessary? Initech Jan 2015 #9
Both sides pro-gun and anti-gun propose these sorts of things. beevul Jan 2015 #10
do you have an example? G_j Jan 2015 #13
Yes. beevul Jan 2015 #40
I'm claiming the moral high ground over these idiots right here and now. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #20
Would you be ok with it if the message was the opposite? beevul Jan 2015 #41
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #55
What equivilent sort of thing from the other side are you talking about? kcr Jan 2015 #29
Link... beevul Jan 2015 #42
Oh. So you're saying gun control is the same thing. kcr Jan 2015 #48
I believe the words I used were "Both sides pro-gun and anti-gun propose these sorts of things." beevul Jan 2015 #59
difficult to realize the difference between an mandatory class which affects GPA and a 'message' LanternWaste Jan 2015 #60
From a couple posts down... beevul Jan 2015 #61
Link? nt Logical Jan 2015 #30
Attorney General of the United States should be good enough, I would think. beevul Jan 2015 #39
It's called "Indoctrination" Neon Gods Jan 2015 #11
but the reason we score worse than international students on math/science exams... Takket Jan 2015 #12
+1,000 Scuba Jan 2015 #15
I think the legislative response to this from the opposition should be to attach an amendment rider. Volaris Jan 2015 #36
This won't end well. Scuba Jan 2015 #14
Yeah! In_The_Wind Jan 2015 #16
As Bill Maher says: "No matter how crazy gun culture gets in America.... marmar Jan 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Jan 2015 #25
Why would you be afraid to go out? GGJohn Jan 2015 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Jan 2015 #47
He didn't insult you. Adrahil Jan 2015 #50
Vermont I'm guessing? glasshouses Jan 2015 #62
Every time I get down about Indiana . . . Brigid Jan 2015 #18
I wouldn't mind gun safety curriculum and practice in my son's school. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #19
Super. Children should learn to kill or be killed in the first grade. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2015 #21
My sons school does a fine job with arts and sciences, too. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #35
It's not about gun safety, it's about gun rights. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #22
LOL, ok, Chain Saw safety also? Swimming class? Pool Safety? Hand tools safety? nt Logical Jan 2015 #31
Well, you learn hand tool and power tool safety in shop classes NickB79 Jan 2015 #32
Not true. No shop class or swimming is required in most schools. nt Logical Jan 2015 #37
Sure. My grade school had shop and we did hand tool saftey. I still remember some of that stuff aikoaiko Jan 2015 #34
SC public schools are tied for 6th worst in the nation PA Democrat Jan 2015 #23
Naw, that readin' and writin' shit don't matter smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #56
WTF!! n/t malaise Jan 2015 #24
They need to grow up...Of course some are just skeered the BLACK man is cumin to get em randys1 Jan 2015 #27
Americans are under attack by gun nut assholes... randys1 Jan 2015 #26
Next up they form their own little Brownshirt clubs.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #28
Standard civics classes should already encompass this NickB79 Jan 2015 #33
exactly! G_j Jan 2015 #38
windfall for NRA Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #46
I'm in favor of gun rights, and this is Stoopid! n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #49
sounds kind of nutty to me Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #51
This is unbelievable Sgent Jan 2015 #53
God, I remember when PE classes consisted smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #57
In my rural district Sgent Jan 2015 #58
I bet that this is supposed to be Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2015 #54
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