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In reply to the discussion: Weekly print run of 3,000,000 for CHARLIE--usual run is 60,000 [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)1. Good. Global Leaders had their photo op and left. But the conversation needs to continue.
Because they aren't likely to pursue it.
And by "it" I mean the question of what really motivated the attacks.
It wasn't the blaspheming, it wasn't the cartoons.
There's a far greater crime afoot, the crime of imperialism and exploitation, the one that CNN isn't covering.
A Hat Tip to our dear friend Nadin, who wrote:
...We at Reporting San Diego expect calls for censorship. Silence is consent. We are also aware that the people responsible for these horrific acts are a very small minority, or a minority. Western Governments, which includes the United States, have to figure out why young people feel so alienated from their society that they are willing to pick up arms.
http://reportingsandiego.com/2015/01/11/why-the-attack-on-free-speech/
http://reportingsandiego.com/2015/01/11/why-the-attack-on-free-speech/
And:
As a news producer, but also a news consumer I found it striking that Jim Bitterman gave a report to CNN-I that was pretty much what we knew at that moment. Yet, he went live to Atlanta a few seconds later and the reporting had quite a bit more speculation in it.
It was obvious they know their audiences. American audiences get a dumbed down product that is going to speculate even when the facts are not in. The international audience will not allow for that. One has to wonder if the penchant for conspiratorial thinking is partly fueled by CNN, and other media in the United States?
Of course the moment that was surreal was when they were self-critical. We are giving the terrorists what they want, coverage, and wall to wall-in fact. We might not want to do this, but we will be right back. It was a moment of did you even listen to what you just said?
Of course, when Senator Lindsey Graham told CNN that President Barack Obama was to blame, I had a moment of not having to set my watch. It was expected, and not challenged. The statement, on its face, is ridiculous, but at no time did anybody say, this is out of line.
Finally we have seen US Papers rethink their cartoon policy. Also many now refuse to run Charlie Hebdo cartoons. It seems the terrorists have won.
http://reportingsandiego.com/2015/01/12/a-commentary-on-us-coverage-of-charlie-hebdo/
It was obvious they know their audiences. American audiences get a dumbed down product that is going to speculate even when the facts are not in. The international audience will not allow for that. One has to wonder if the penchant for conspiratorial thinking is partly fueled by CNN, and other media in the United States?
Of course the moment that was surreal was when they were self-critical. We are giving the terrorists what they want, coverage, and wall to wall-in fact. We might not want to do this, but we will be right back. It was a moment of did you even listen to what you just said?
Of course, when Senator Lindsey Graham told CNN that President Barack Obama was to blame, I had a moment of not having to set my watch. It was expected, and not challenged. The statement, on its face, is ridiculous, but at no time did anybody say, this is out of line.
Finally we have seen US Papers rethink their cartoon policy. Also many now refuse to run Charlie Hebdo cartoons. It seems the terrorists have won.
http://reportingsandiego.com/2015/01/12/a-commentary-on-us-coverage-of-charlie-hebdo/
NGU, DU.
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Good. Global Leaders had their photo op and left. But the conversation needs to continue.
NYC_SKP
Jan 2015
#1
If you repeat the same thing enough times it becomes true and people will believe you.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2015
#6
That's true. It's lies and propaganda that are easy to swallow. People literally bath in it.
NYC_SKP
Jan 2015
#20
As far as I can tell this poster is determined to stake out one outrageous position
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2015
#116
so if you don't like it, it's can't be said? better to let the guy shout all he wants because
msongs
Jan 2015
#34
whats the difference between a political cartton and a KKK flyer making fuin of a black lynching?
politicman
Jan 2015
#50
Charlie Hebdo is not racist, they are not homophobic. You spread falsehoods, but even that should
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2015
#38
no id ont think anyone should die for cartoons or anything that offends anyone
politicman
Jan 2015
#65
if threatening words are illegal then that shows that we already have restrictions on what we are
politicman
Jan 2015
#84
this is a privately owned forum with posting rules which everyone posting agreed to
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#119
don't you get tired of making baseless assumptions and jumping to of conclusions?
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#122
ok, that is now 2 examples with an insult thrown in. My name isn't Francis.
uppityperson
Jan 2015
#128
No, making fun of a religion can also oppose bad attitudes of that religion
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2015
#111
Would you support his right to say it, or would you support the guy saying it?
politicman
Jan 2015
#75
What about if someone threatened to kill you and your family by using threatening words?
politicman
Jan 2015
#77
You think there's a problem with differentiating between threats of violence, and offensive words?
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2015
#112
This post is disgustingly racist and the police should do something about it.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2015
#110
A million other DUers have already refuted the claim that Charlie Hebdo was racist.
backscatter712
Jan 2015
#135
politicman, while claiming to be against denigrating speech in some basic way, was locked out of
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2015
#113