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madfloridian

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34. To be clear, Bush would not have gotten his way if more had stood up to him.

Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:20 PM

Jan 2015

The media played to our fears, and both parties went along.

I have never ever left Bush out of the equation....I just am giving credit to a brave and persistent Bob Graham.

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What's the difference between Bob Graham and the Clintons on the Iraq fiasco? Honest truth. [View all] madfloridian Jan 2015 OP

What I Knew Before the Invasion..Bob Graham 2005 madfloridian Jan 2015 #1

Which is the biggest reason I won't vote for her. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #2

+1 Scuba Jan 2015 #3

The difference between them is stunning. madfloridian Jan 2015 #6

Warren and Sanders vote on ISIS Resolution is the reason I would not vote for either of them. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #7

Nobody's perfect, Part 2. calimary Jan 2015 #23

Nobody's perfect, Part 1. calimary Jan 2015 #22

You are right, no one is perfect but for some one thing wrong prevents a vote, so there you are. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #27

My post does NOT encourage anyone to refuse to vote. madfloridian Jan 2015 #35

I did not say refuse to vote, some actions taken by candidates just may send my vote elsewhere. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #36

I don't know what got you started on me so angrily.... madfloridian Jan 2015 #37

Actually i was e replying to Post #2, and yes I believe if one sits on their duff and does not make Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #39

Just to be plain spoken, Bush had every intention on invading Iraq before he was elected, he had to Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #4

I do believe those who voted yes to the Iraq invasion must be reminded over and over. madfloridian Jan 2015 #8

And we should at the same time remind everyone Bush pulled the invasion of Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #9

Thank you RobertEarl Jan 2015 #24

And in this thread Bush gets a pass, does this mean everyone who did not come Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #26

bush gets no pass RobertEarl Jan 2015 #28

You got it reversed, I said Bush was the vote to invade Iraq, he planned it before he was president Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #29

To be clear RobertEarl Jan 2015 #31

If you think they should jump out on him ok, I do not know it is necessary for my good but whatever. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #32

Glad to see you do not give a pass RobertEarl Jan 2015 #33

Bush got a pass? Only from the clintons. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #41

No, we're quite good at blaming more than one person. jeff47 Jan 2015 #11

You can discount her failure to vote no, Bush gave the go ahead, if she would have voted no he would Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #12

Then that's all the more reason for her to have voted no. jeff47 Jan 2015 #14

Plain speaking, the vote in the Senate was 77 yes votes and 23 no, as I stated before it would not Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #15

A no vote might have made Hillary president 6 years ago. Now, she'll never be president. w4rma Jan 2015 #17

It does not matter if it would have changed the outcome. Read her words in the OP. madfloridian Jan 2015 #18

If Hillary voted no what action do you think Bush have taken? Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #44

"It's wrong, but I'll vote for it anyway, because everyone else is" ND-Dem Jan 2015 #42

Good point here, Thinkingabout. calimary Jan 2015 #25

To be clear, Bush would not have gotten his way if more had stood up to him. madfloridian Jan 2015 #34

"Bush would not have gotten his way if more had stood up to him." = exactly. I still remember ND-Dem Jan 2015 #43

Damn right. elleng Jan 2015 #5

Seems Papa Paul has many moles. Cryptoad Jan 2015 #10

Heh. I misread the OP title. progressoid Jan 2015 #13

K&R FloriTexan Jan 2015 #16

Phantom Flight From Florida. Tampa Tribune 2001 madfloridian Jan 2015 #19

Senator Bob Graham: The CIA Made Up Two Briefing Sessions. Emptywheel blog. madfloridian Jan 2015 #20

K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #21

Awesome post. Much of this is new to me. RiverLover Jan 2015 #30

That is one reason I reposted it in part. madfloridian Jan 2015 #38

Yep. moondust Jan 2015 #40

"the Clintons of all people should have known better given Bill's fairly recent access" madfloridian Jan 2015 #46

k&r, thanks madfloridian. johnnyreb Jan 2015 #45