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Egnever

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31. Again this was politics

Tue Jan 13, 2015, 05:09 AM

Jan 2015

They are herding the cats just fine.

These votes weren't people straying this was people being allowed to go off script to try to protect their seats. They counted what they needed and let the people who needed to and that they could afford to vote against it.

The bill only marginally passes. Obama gets to make a big show of vetoing it and the pukes get the scarlet letter of passing it. It would have passed regardless unless the Dems filibustered and again there is no reason for it Obama already said he will veto it.

The idea that everything should be filibustered is republican BS and is one of the main reasons our government is broken right now. We should not be encouraging pointless filibusters and legitimizing the republican way of governing. We should be calling them out for the children they are and governing responsibly.

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10 Democrats vote with GOP to advance Keystone bill. [View all] AtomicKitten Jan 2015 OP

Uh-huh. All the usual "Democratic" suspects!! Edited: ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2015 #1

Why the hell hasn't Carper been primaried? nt geek tragedy Jan 2015 #2

he had a primary opponent in 2012 onenote Jan 2015 #4

most of these people do not know better DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #3

Do I recall correctly that Obama backed McCaskill rather than a more liberal candiate a few JDPriestly Jan 2015 #61

Obama has more knives in his back DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #62

My question would be how does South Dakota oil fit into all this? JonLP24 Jan 2015 #5

So? Egnever Jan 2015 #6

It's why Democrats don't turn out to vote AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #8

No it's politics Egnever Jan 2015 #14

much support is based on lies AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #17

Doesnt matter what it is based on Egnever Jan 2015 #19

It's their responsibility to educate their constituents. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #22

When was the last time you were educated by one of your representatives Egnever Jan 2015 #25

I'm California born and raised. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #28

Just an example Egnever Jan 2015 #29

I blame the Electoral College. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #30

Night Egnever Jan 2015 #32

Not us.... The Shredder Jan 2015 #51

Edmund Burke once said rpannier Jan 2015 #55

You've mistaken Mark Udall for Tom Udall rusty fender Jan 2015 #66

Why are you making excuses for them? Their job is to do what is right, popular or not. Scuba Jan 2015 #35

LOL Egnever Jan 2015 #58

+1 Scuba Jan 2015 #34

I know.. that's what's so damn frustrating.. they're aquisescing to the LIES. Just like during Mid- Cha Jan 2015 #63

So it is sold on the world market. former9thward Jan 2015 #68

I support infrastructure projects such as road and bridge AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #69

One more pipeline among thousands former9thward Jan 2015 #70

More reason to oppose it. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #72

It was not going to pass without them. former9thward Jan 2015 #10

only if someone put forth a filibuster Egnever Jan 2015 #15

If anything it lets Obama show he's serious. joshcryer Jan 2015 #18

If nothing else. Egnever Jan 2015 #23

He's already trashed to hell and back. joshcryer Jan 2015 #24

With the 10 Dems defecting, they didn't have the votes to filibuster. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #20

if then .... Egnever Jan 2015 #21

If truth be told, he'd probably be fine taking the heat. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #26

Again this was politics Egnever Jan 2015 #31

Disagree turbinetree Jan 2015 #45

No one protested? joshcryer Jan 2015 #27

Sen Hoeven R-NDakota says "They need only 4 votes to override a Pres veto misterhighwasted Jan 2015 #7

I don't get it. Keystone has virtually no upside. AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #9

Oh they certainly are paid well. misterhighwasted Jan 2015 #11

and there's this -- AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #12

Oh yes, absolutely. Setting policy to benefit themselves. DC is quite the exclusive club, isn't it. misterhighwasted Jan 2015 #37

The only upside for the corporations is it might make it a little more profitable madville Jan 2015 #53

LOL of course he did Egnever Jan 2015 #16

How do these legislators plan to get the Presidential Permit Samantha Jan 2015 #13

D.C. kabuki? merrily Jan 2015 #33

Democrats my ass! B Calm Jan 2015 #36

Please note what this vote was about. staggerleem Jan 2015 #38

+1 SacoMaine61 Jan 2015 #40

Please note I used the word "advanced" AtomicKitten Jan 2015 #42

+100 sinkingfeeling Jan 2015 #47

I sent a message to McCaskill to complain. Gore1FL Jan 2015 #39

I would rather have real Democrats in Congress even if their numbers were less... RationalMan Jan 2015 #41

Angus King is against Keystone bluestateguy Jan 2015 #43

Yes, this is a procedural vote, the final vote will be 60, barely over the filibuster, and that may Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #56

GREAT turbinetree Jan 2015 #44

Just because a senator votes to debate a bill doesn't mean they'll vote sinkingfeeling Jan 2015 #46

Does the Democratic Party actually STAND for anything anymore? blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #48

Yes. DeSwiss Jan 2015 #49

Yep. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #65

Bennet is finished The Shredder Jan 2015 #50

Welcome to DU!! I don't know how fair it is to blame Bennett for the 2014 election losses. StevieM Jan 2015 #73

Can they be charged with treason? jen1980 Jan 2015 #52

thank you RussBLib Jan 2015 #54

WTF? Mr. President said he would veto and they still vote with the pugs? Bastards! lonestarnot Jan 2015 #57

Tom Udall voted for this????? fantase56 Jan 2015 #59

Paul Wellstone referred to this trend in the Dem. party as the kinder, gentler republican party.. midnight Jan 2015 #60

That's the "Not as bad" wing that we're supposed to vote for. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #64

Damn it Claire! Missouri rednecks aren't the ones who made you a Senator! MatthewStLouis Jan 2015 #67

We dont know what kind of deals were made on other upcoming legislation INdemo Jan 2015 #71