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246. Jury Results

Tue Jan 13, 2015, 07:00 AM

Jan 2015

On Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:25 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

If you're going to continue to lie, then we're done here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6077916

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is the third or fourth time he has called the poster a liar. Skinner has said it is all right to say a post is a lie, but not all right to say that the poster is lying or a liar.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jan 12, 2015, 08:44 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disagreeing and lying are two different things. Vote to Hide.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Make your life easier, don't feed the trolls. That being said, this does not rise to the level of a hide.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: In the context I think he has the right to say that - the "lie" refers to this exchange, which is emotional. He doesn't seem to be calling the poster a liar. The poster is saying that this guy thinks Zimmerman is justified, and that doesn't seem to be his opinion.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Oh, how I miss the DU2 rules against this and personal attacks.
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Funny how the George Zimmerman defenders--here, there and everywhere have stopped defending him. [View all] trumad Jan 2015 OP

The fact that we had Zimmerman defenders here on DU ..... marmar Jan 2015 #1

It is/was out not-so-sleepy sleeper-cell�. PCIntern Jan 2015 #4

It's no longer the DU of yesterday years. FarPoint Jan 2015 #5

Those on the left were tolerated when DU was 'underground'. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #109

The Left was a minimum requirement back in the day. FarPoint Jan 2015 #113

You've learned that in the one month you've been here? FSogol Jan 2015 #128

Things that make you wonder, eh? Hekate Jan 2015 #154

Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Jan 2015 #201

really? Bwahh.haa haa haaa? Sheepshank Jan 2015 #219

It's about freaking time. Chemisse Jan 2015 #2

They will be back to show us how foolish they are at some point Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #3

true that... trumad Jan 2015 #6

i'm skeptical there were people that defended Zimmerman Enrique Jan 2015 #7

or those who do not believe the prosecution proved their case DrDan Jan 2015 #9

oh please... trumad Jan 2015 #11

Oh please what? GGJohn Jan 2015 #13

There was no reasonable doubt, the asshole admitted to following and killing Trayvon Martin Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #14

Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere. GGJohn Jan 2015 #18

No you go peddle your nonsense elsewhere, this is Democratic Underground not Gun Love Underground Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #21

WTF does "gun love" have to do with my post? GGJohn Jan 2015 #22

The defense attorneys may try to smear the victim but the victim's rights still need to be respected Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #23

My post has nothing to do with my position on firearms, that's irrelevent to this GGJohn Jan 2015 #26

I am not talking about the defense attorney Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #28

The shooting victim does have rights, that's what the prosecutor's are for, GGJohn Jan 2015 #33

Not exactly.... IowaGuy Jan 2015 #189

Thank you!!!!!! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #168

The jury referred to him as "georgie boy" as I recall...there was no doubt, you are right randys1 Jan 2015 #34

The jury did not refer to him as "Georgie boy", only one juror did that. GGJohn Jan 2015 #38

Did they need a unanimous decision to convict? randys1 Jan 2015 #41

In our system, yes, it has to be a unanimous decision in a criminal trial to convict. GGJohn Jan 2015 #43

Oh, so as a liberal you think maybe Trayvon precipitate his death somehow? randys1 Jan 2015 #45

Where the fuck did I ever say that? GGJohn Jan 2015 #47

I said i thought all liberals agreed on this, you said you thought liberals were not like cons randys1 Jan 2015 #50

The only fucking position I'm taking is that the jury, GGJohn Jan 2015 #52

First, I agreed that DA purposely fucked up the case, the racist DA and justice system randys1 Jan 2015 #53

Those reason for his acquittal were because of the lack of a robust prosecution GGJohn Jan 2015 #59

Don't apologize randy JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #125

why are you playing these little word games? backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #83

Ahh yes, it is a liberal who AGGRESSIVELY pushes liberal positions who are the problem at DU randys1 Jan 2015 #85

Now I get it, GGJohn Jan 2015 #88

Not mine, the VAST majority of posters here who agree that Zimmerman hunted and killed randys1 Jan 2015 #90

Who here has denied that that's what happened? eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #93

Pls leave it alone with the hijacking of the thread . . . brush Jan 2015 #96

yep that's exactly what I said backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #99

... randys1 Jan 2015 #101

WTF? backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #102

LOL. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #103

I like your link better. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #129

there was reasonable doubt introduced from witness after witness DrDan Jan 2015 #49

And from those witnesses? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #56

All prosecution witnesses phil89 Jan 2015 #104

exactly DrDan Jan 2015 #106

Defending himself from what? liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #139

That's the problem LittleBlue Jan 2015 #234

The "problem" is that you're saying self-defense only works one way. R B Garr Jan 2015 #243

And here is where your argument breaks down LittleBlue Jan 2015 #244

like we saw in Ferguson, prosecutors present the case they want to present notadmblnd Jan 2015 #81

Yes. GGJohn Jan 2015 #84

It's amazing how so many on DU cannot distinguish Vattel Jan 2015 #121

Is someone who makes the following statement a "Zimmerman Defender"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #15

to many here, yes Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #27

He Learned His Lesson After The Henry Louis Gates Gaffe wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #32

OBAMA faces relentless racism and hate, all day, everyday, from up to ONE HUNDRED MILLION randys1 Jan 2015 #37

Yes, Obama has to defend the indefensible otherwise the one hundred million rabid racist randys1 Jan 2015 #46

So if he had not chosen to make that statement, a "race war" would have ensued? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #65

It's statements like that, that you just want to GGJohn Jan 2015 #67

no! Enrique Jan 2015 #63

No, no, no. GGJohn Jan 2015 #64

Here is an example Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #73

Ah, someone mentioned "reasonable doubt", exactly like President Obama did (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #75

I don't care one way or another. I was just citing something I saw I took to be an example Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #80

so someone says there was reasonable doubt in the Casey Anthony case Enrique Jan 2015 #79

I have said Mark Furhman arguably introduced reasonable doubt into the OJ Simpson case Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #98

I think you need to check your link therre, Katashi. Sissyk Jan 2015 #133

What took you so long? nt brush Jan 2015 #91

I defended Zimmerman to the extent that people were howling MURDER before the facts were known Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #224

I think most of them were trolls who have been banned. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #8

I saw one on Saturday JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #126

At this point, the average American has a better chance of being assaulted by GZ than winning the PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #10

Why would you think that people who agreed with the jury would defend him on unrelated charges Taitertots Jan 2015 #12

There is no reason we should see things from the perspective of racist murder defenders Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #16

But that would require not mischaracterizing other people's positions mythology Jan 2015 #20

many did not agree with the jury also Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #30

Too Bad They Were Deferring To What Is Pretty Much An All-White Jury wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #35

Too bad that is the system Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #42

And You See How Well It Turned Out wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #94

how would you fix it? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #95

Are You Interested In Fixing The Problem wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #118

well since you are the one that said it was broken Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #148

So It's Not Broken? wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #153

They are still here: demmiblue Jan 2015 #17

I don't think sheshe2 is a "Zimmerman defender". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #19

Sheshe2's whole thread is chock full of Zimmy defenders. HappyMe Jan 2015 #25

Do you mind providing a link to an actual post there that you see as "defending Zimmy"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #29

I too would like to see those Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #31

And I've seen the opposite, so people have probably figured out R B Garr Jan 2015 #100

I'm surprised you missed this post of someone point defending and justifying the Zimpigs shooting JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #203

Thank you! Good to see that low-post count troll was removed by MIRT! Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #206

So no acknowledgment - zip, zero, nilch JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #210

MIRT does an excellent job and did (of course) eventually ban him. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #211

You could have provided that link yourself Nye JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #218

I might have seen that thread but missed the post that you spotted in the 250+ responses. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #220

Really? You must not retain what you read/peruse in depth. . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #225

Wait.... so because I cited this one post of yours, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #227

Actually no JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #228

Take your time. Let us know when you find one (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #55

Sorry, but real life interrrupted HappyMe Jan 2015 #72

Yep. It is very time-consuming to find a single "Zimmy-supporting" post Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #74

I'm not willing to play your game. HappyMe Jan 2015 #82

That is the tactic. trumad Jan 2015 #86

OK, PM me the link and I will post it myself. So you have no risk of getting a hide (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #87

I gave him one JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #204

Nobody ever got a post hidden for linking to a low-post count troll who got banned. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #208

He was here for over a year JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #209

Exactly. H2O Man Jan 2015 #213

I don't understand why he's arguing this point so vociferously JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #217

Not sure that thanking you for a link and praising MIRT for banning someone Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #221

One of the people who doesn't post enough here these days is H20 Man JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #223

Exactly 2 H2O Man Jan 2015 #222

When someone makes a complaint about behavior on DU, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #229

Oh, deer! H2O Man Jan 2015 #230

Yep malaise Jan 2015 #24

You mean other than the ones you can see everywhere...weird how you can say you are not randys1 Jan 2015 #39

I don't see what's so funny about it pipi_k Jan 2015 #36

Anyone who defended him at ANY point is a defender of a murderer and i wont say more randys1 Jan 2015 #40

It's like Hannity took Cliven off his speed dial underpants Jan 2015 #44

Like this guy.. butterfly77 Jan 2015 #48

Defending Zimm and suggesting the state didn't prove their case are two different things davidn3600 Jan 2015 #51

not to some here . . . one-in-the-same DrDan Jan 2015 #57

I guess I was wrong... trumad Jan 2015 #54

Yes... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #58

Here's another one for you, GGJohn Jan 2015 #62

Wel... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #115

I wish, eyesight going, legs going, brain going, and the most important GGJohn Jan 2015 #116

Presumably you alerted on those despicable, Zimmerman-defending posts Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #60

Point out one person that's defending Zimmerman the person here. GGJohn Jan 2015 #61

been here a long long time trumad Jan 2015 #66

Interesting how the "DU IS FULL OF ZIMMY SUPPORTERS!" folks Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #68

Well that's kind of hard to do... trumad Jan 2015 #76

PM me the link. I'll post it and risk getting the hide (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #89

I don't trust you as far as I can throw you. trumad Jan 2015 #92

Uh huh Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #97

I found a safe example upthread Trumad JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #205

So in other words, you can't provide a link to anyone here defending GGJohn Jan 2015 #69

Uh huh trumad Jan 2015 #77

that's not how this game is played Enrique Jan 2015 #71

uh huh trumad Jan 2015 #78

I believe you are a Zimmerman defender. onpatrol98 Jan 2015 #150

As I have stated many times, IMO, Zimmerman is guilty of Vol. Manslaughter, GGJohn Jan 2015 #152

It's my opinion... onpatrol98 Jan 2015 #157

I didn't say based on the evidence, I said based on the law, the only correct GGJohn Jan 2015 #158

~~~~ Hekate Jan 2015 #155

You give him/her a +1 so it seems you agree, I would like to request that you GGJohn Jan 2015 #156

+1 Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #171

+1 demmiblue Jan 2015 #198

Wow, that's deep. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #200

+1 Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #199

He's going to end up like OJ Nevernose Jan 2015 #70

I noticed the same thing JonLP24 Jan 2015 #105

I agree with you, GGJohn Jan 2015 #108

Yet Zimmerman, the person, is who shot Trayvon. R B Garr Jan 2015 #202

No fucking shit!!! GGJohn Jan 2015 #231

Then quit separating them and pretending no one notices. R B Garr Jan 2015 #235

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2015 #236

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2015 #107

I have seen that too bluestateguy Jan 2015 #110

Basically what my Op is about... trumad Jan 2015 #112

Droll post to toot your own horn miyazaki Jan 2015 #111

There are quite a few still here. n/t Jamastiene Jan 2015 #114

trust me, that crowd has simply moved to twitter Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #117

Zimmerman is scum cwydro Jan 2015 #119

sure they did trumad Jan 2015 #120

I really wish H2O Man Jan 2015 #122

same characters come running every time. trumad Jan 2015 #124

I noticed that JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #127

Yep billh58 Jan 2015 #212

But what is going on with DU juries? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #130

Zero. H2O Man Jan 2015 #131

Grumbling about DU posts you dislike, while never alerting on any of them, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #132

I wouldn't know. H2O Man Jan 2015 #134

Bemoaning "Zim-porters clustering and sticking" is not "grumbling"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #160

So, H2O Man, why don't you point out who here is defending Zimmerman the person. GGJohn Jan 2015 #136

Yes, you will wait. H2O Man Jan 2015 #137

Thought so, GGJohn Jan 2015 #138

Gosh. H2O Man Jan 2015 #140

because it will get juried trumad Jan 2015 #141

As I told you before, GGJohn Jan 2015 #142

you don't maybe trumad Jan 2015 #144

I don't doubt it, it's happened to me and I condemn the practice, GGJohn Jan 2015 #145

here's the thing trumad Jan 2015 #147

yep, happened to me several times Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #149

True, that. H2O Man Jan 2015 #143

it's like my Republican friends... trumad Jan 2015 #146

You only have 1 hidden post in the past 90 days. 4 hides to go before you are suspended. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #161

suspended for 4 months at the end of 2013 trumad Jan 2015 #169

That seems so unfair pintobean Jan 2015 #172

Yes, you do keep track of things. R B Garr Jan 2015 #176

That was a bannered announcement. pintobean Jan 2015 #177

Oh, I doubt that was the real reason for your post. R B Garr Jan 2015 #179

Why don't you tell us what he meant pintobean Jan 2015 #180

Better yet, you tell us why you care about his posts. R B Garr Jan 2015 #181

I was pretty clear about my concern pintobean Jan 2015 #183

Yes, you are very clear about your "concern" for trumad. R B Garr Jan 2015 #185

And here you are so concerned about pintobean's posts. GGJohn Jan 2015 #232

You are here, too. So concerned about protecting Zimmerman R B Garr Jan 2015 #233

Saying I'm protecting Zimmerman is a lie, so why are you lying? GGJohn Jan 2015 #237

Hey, if you want to contradict yourself, go right ahead. R B Garr Jan 2015 #238

See? You're lying again about what I said. GGJohn Jan 2015 #239

Obviously the prosecution did poorly, but it's a lie R B Garr Jan 2015 #240

If you're going to continue to lie, then we're done here. GGJohn Jan 2015 #241

LOL, your own post #59 in this thread describes your OPINION R B Garr Jan 2015 #242

Right, it's my opinion that the jury got it right because the prosecution screwed up GGJohn Jan 2015 #245

Jury Results Blue_Adept Jan 2015 #246

not saying I did not deserve it... trumad Jan 2015 #186

Thank you Trumad JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #123

Wonder what George will do next? Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #135

I don't remember anyone here defending him Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #151

Many in this thread have pointed this out, and asked the OP for a link to any post, anywhere on DU, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #159

Oh yes DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #162

But like everyone else who claims this, you can't provide a single link as an example, can you? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #163

here ya go DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #164

That's a link to a post by UnrepentantLiberal Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #165

no, I said DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #166

there are plenty of links like that... trumad Jan 2015 #170

Can you provide a link to an example of such a post? (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #173

Nice choice, Don pintobean Jan 2015 #174

here ya go DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #175

The first post you linked to said that Zimmerman's rescue "may have been staged", Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #190

and I would tell each one of fools what a bunch of gopiscrap Jan 2015 #167

This thread illustrates that many of his defenders' new line is "who ever defend him?" LanternWaste Jan 2015 #178

Actually a reasonable question, as nobody is able to produce a link to a "Zimmerman defending" post. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #192

Bless your little heart. Of course you can't remember any posts defending Zimmerman. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #194

(Lanternwaste does quick DU Google search and is unable to find "Zimmy-defending post") Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #195

Funny how this OP brought billh58 Jan 2015 #182

yep trumad Jan 2015 #188

Except that neither the OP nor you can cite a single post in this thread that "defends Zimmerman". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #191

Funny how this OP brought DrDan Jan 2015 #196

Can you post a link of someone defending Zimmerman? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #197

Someone upthread finally provided a link to the kind of post Trumad has in mind. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #215

I don't know. The fools in my neighborhood and in my own family defend him. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #184

Most of those defending Zman here were also gun toters. Hoyt Jan 2015 #187

Not this website but there are a few still defending him Catherine Vincent Jan 2015 #193

Actually someone upthread provided a link to a DU post that arguably defended Zimmerman. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #214

Like I said... trumad Jan 2015 #216

Agreed and the example I provided Trumad JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #226

now he's beating up white people samsingh Jan 2015 #207