How the liberal left loses the argument. Ceding criticism of Islam to the Right.

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56. No, you insisted that we let the framing from the right go unchallenged.

The framing from the right is the problem is with Islam. You are insisting we let that go, because you are insisting we can't talk about differences within Islam. Discussing those differences means discussing people who say they were "not real Muslims". Each sect insist they're the real Muslims, just like each sect in Christianity insist they're the real Christians.

The other major component of the framing from the right is that the left is insisting there be no criticism at all of Islam or any sect thereof. Which is utterly false, but you demand we believe it.

Hell, you can't even get beyond the attackers themselves. Your analysis stops at what the shooters claim. You don't look at the motivation or history of their group. You don't look at their prior actions. You don't look at what the leadership is doing. The minions said "Allahu Akbar" is the entirety of the discussion you will allow.

We did exactly what you demand once before. It's why we did exactly what Al Qaeda wanted, and we built them a massive army of jihadists.