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Triana

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21. Some vital links on the matter of ISIS...
Wed Jan 14, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jan 2015

I just had to tweet these to some chest-thumping dufus who was blaming Obama for ISIS:


Fox Hides Bush's Actions To Claim Bush Gave "Visionary" Warning About Islamic State

Fox News accused President Obama of ignoring warnings from President Bush about the ramifications of a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, claiming that Bush's warnings in 2007 predicted the rise of the Islamic State extremist group. In reality, Obama followed the extended withdrawal timeline that Bush set in 2008 with the approval of military leaders

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/09/05/fox-hides-bushs-actions-to-claim-bush-gave-visi/200662


Fox News Host Embarrassed By Fact Checkers After Blaming Obama for Bush Mistake

Recently, Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro tried to claim that President Obama is responsible for the leader of the I.S.I.S., Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, being free. Pirro said, “The head of this band of savages is a man named Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, the new Osama Bin Laden. A man released by Obama in 2009, who started ISIS a year later. And when Baghdadi left Camp Bucca, where the worst of the worst were held in Iraq, he threatened his American jailers saying, ‘I’ll see you in New York.’” Just one small problem with that – it’s not true. In fact, it got a rating of “False” by Politifact. If you want to “blame” a president for the release of al Baghdadi, the only one you could blame is George W. Bush. Politifact found exactly two possible scenarios behind the release of al Baghdadi – and they both point to the Bush administration.

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/fox-news-host-embarrassed-fact-checkers-blaming-obama-bush-mistake/


FACT CHECK: ISIS Leader, Baghdadi, Was Released By Bush, Not Obama

Since the right-wing is so intent on assigning blame for Baghdadi’s campaign of terror on the president who was in office when he was set free, then according to their logic it is all Bush’s fault. But don’t expect Fox News to report the facts as laid out by actual journalists. They won’t even report the comments of their own witness, Col. King, who appeared on another network (ABC) and admitted that he “could be mistaken.” It turns out that he never knew the name of the man he presumed to be Baghdadi, he just thought there was a resemblance to the man he encountered. Nor will they report Col. King’s remarks to the Daily Beast where he downplayed the threat posed by Baghdadi, saying that “He was a bad dude, but he wasn’t the worst of the worst.”

PolitiFact went on to note that, even if Col. King’s account were correct, and Baghdadi was still in custody in 2009, Obama still could not be held to blame for Baghdadi’s release. The terms of the Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq required the U.S. to turn over all prisoners to the custody of Iraq’s criminal system. That agreement was negotiated and agreed to by the Bush administration in 2008.

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=17047


How the Top Iraqi Terrorist Was Helped by a Bush-Signed Agreement

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who heads the jihadists threatening Baghdad, was freed from prison under a deal W. struck with Iraq.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-release-george-bush

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The chest-thumper on Twitter then criticized my SOURCES ie: "You're quoting Mother Jones as a credible source? HA!"

My response: "You can't argue with the FACTS, so you criticize the source. FAIL."

There it is.

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CNN has gone Full Fascist, they are deliberately spreading terrorist propaganda with their endless Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #1
The media is trying to sell the phony meme that President Obama is weak on terror. Botany Jan 2015 #4
Jeff Zucker wrote the script, it is what he was hired to do.....but the obviousness of it is unreal. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #5
Good points R Crumb said as much after the attack on Charile Hebdo in an interview Botany Jan 2015 #18
An interview the American mass media avoided like the plague. Notice how they all have avoided Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #20
It all seems so silly. earthside Jan 2015 #2
" anyone with even a modicum of intelligence understands..." atreides1 Jan 2015 #27
Out on a limb. earthside Jan 2015 #29
Corpmedia is following Bush-Cheney path of giving terrorists exactly what they WANT - blm Jan 2015 #3
^^^^^^^Giving the terrorists what they both want. Fear. Next act is to crown a Savior From Fear. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
Can you even imagine what the blow back would be if President Obama had said that .... Botany Jan 2015 #12
Actual Muslims don't consider the terrorists to be Muslims... Takket Jan 2015 #6
We all can see what the mass media is up to, why are so many folks so blind? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #9
Some do and some don't oberliner Jan 2015 #10
That debate is settled. The commander in chief is on one side, and it is not yours. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #11
Huh? oberliner Jan 2015 #17
So even if you are hell bent on murder you just have to mumble some words and presto you are a Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #19
How does a person who is not a Muslim become a Muslim? oberliner Jan 2015 #22
Not having blood lust on the brain for starters. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #23
So you don't actually know how a person becomes a Muslim oberliner Jan 2015 #24
Where is the strapping a bomb to your waist part again? And was the forgotten slaughter in Norway Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #26
Real Christians don't consider Bush or Cheney to be Christians. blm Jan 2015 #16
We're fucked madokie Jan 2015 #8
Right wingers are all about the show treestar Jan 2015 #13
Should a cable news TV channel be allowed to spread anti-Muslim agitrop freely? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #14
I guess they can, but they can also be criticized for it treestar Jan 2015 #15
Some vital links on the matter of ISIS... Triana Jan 2015 #21
I thought the press secretary looked leftynyc Jan 2015 #25
FINE! And when other assaults happen the WH can THEN call them Christian terrorists,,,, benld74 Jan 2015 #28
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