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that_norwegian_guy

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118. Sources, please?

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:18 AM

Apr 2012

Yes, he allegedly stalked a girl, but he claims he was jogging. This happened in Chicago. He was never convicted, and therefore you have no basis to say he has been stalking anyone. Unless you're a fan of the "guilty until proven innocent" concept.

Now, point two, what you refer to as the "anthrax case". I presume you are referring to the fact that he was kicked out of the University of Mobile, Alabama. He was kicked out simply because he was a foreigner studying biochemistry, and was thusly a suspected terrorist. Makes sense, doesn't it? A Norwegian studying biochemistry in Alabama after 9/11 - there is no other conclusion, he must be a evil terrorist! Again, no conviction, just unfounded allegations.

Now for your quote - it makes no sense what so ever. I mean, "THE INCENTIVE AGAINST SHOTGUNS MOTHER AND SON" - can you please explain to me what this sentence means? And most importantly, you need to provide a source for this quote, because if you don't, it's completely worthless.

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Norwegian student risks 35 years in jail in the US - made a wrong turn [View all] Lars77 Apr 2012 OP

We look more like Nazi Germany everyday MichiganVote Apr 2012 #1

I missed the part where all Norwegians were being gassed Son of Gob Apr 2012 #14

Lower the bar a bit more. Cerridwen Apr 2012 #16

"Hey it's Nazi Germany, people are getting arrested for running people over." Son of Gob Apr 2012 #20

It's astounding the number of people who think/insist Cerridwen Apr 2012 #53

So you think the US government is going to, at some point, start mass murdering it's citizens? Son of Gob Apr 2012 #55

Nice spin. Cerridwen Apr 2012 #56

Oh, I see Son of Gob Apr 2012 #57

I doubt you do. Cerridwen Apr 2012 #58

A live one huh? Son of Gob Apr 2012 #59

Oddly enough, you just described both Goebbels and Limabugh... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #120

There is nothing to suggest that this happened because they were from Norway. karynnj Apr 2012 #209

Read downthread Son of Gob Apr 2012 #220

5 years in jail, and not for trying to run people over. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #25

That's a funny way to try to not run people over Son of Gob Apr 2012 #46

How do you know he knew it was closed? lorddave999 Apr 2012 #52

How can you possibly think he didn't? Son of Gob Apr 2012 #54

It's reasonable to allow that he was not familiar with the area; this isn't his home country. pacalo Apr 2012 #67

I can understand unwittingly going the wrong way on a one way street Son of Gob Apr 2012 #71

response cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #73

I'm confused, as well, but there are a number of Norwegians who have recently pacalo Apr 2012 #75

of corse cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #77

Well, to be fair, our country's reputation for integrity & principle has suffered a lot pacalo Apr 2012 #86

Do you have a link to this article? Eikers Apr 2012 #104

You are the liar that_norwegian_guy Apr 2012 #113

LYING???? cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #116

Sources, please? that_norwegian_guy Apr 2012 #118

quote. cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #119

Lost in translation that_norwegian_guy Apr 2012 #122

You have quoted an automatic translation of the article, right? Eikers Apr 2012 #123

makes sense cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #124

Could it be that he was following either a faulty GPS system that karynnj Apr 2012 #211

I don't think that was problem, it being closed and full of people was the issue. Son of Gob Apr 2012 #221

The language is a bit hyperbolic but it's a good point. vaberella Apr 2012 #82

7months too little cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #84

No, 7 years Son of Gob Apr 2012 #87

oh ya cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #88

Oh Jesus Christ. For what?! vaberella Apr 2012 #89

what? cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #90

I'm not sure Son of Gob Apr 2012 #91

Putting people on trial for reckless driving makes us exactly like Nazi germany 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #39

Welcome to Arizona... orwell Apr 2012 #2

Global climate change may make it uninhabitable. libinnyandia Apr 2012 #4

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #37

"make it uninhabitable"? quakerboy Apr 2012 #45

Even higher temperatures, much less water available. libinnyandia Apr 2012 #47

I vowed never to go back after I attended a Grateful Dead show in '93(?).... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #38

I'm stuck here for a while blueamy66 Apr 2012 #130

Why no full name? It would be a public record. Just curious. virgogal Apr 2012 #3

I agree-- a full name would be needed for verification Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #11

I didn´t bother putting in the full name, its in the link. Lars77 Apr 2012 #27

Seems like the translation dropped the full name. Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #24

FB Group - Free John Kristoffer larsgard Solmiget Apr 2012 #35

When you say Arizona justice sulphurdunn Apr 2012 #5

Ticket for driving to endanger, and a brain transplant Mopar151 Apr 2012 #6

His full name is in the article tommy777 Apr 2012 #7

This happened? lorddave999 Apr 2012 #8

I salute our Police State Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #9

Wat do you mean? Logical Apr 2012 #21

What i mean is that the police for the most part Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #64

You are a mistaken Angry Dragon Node Apr 2012 #153

Retired law enforcement here. William769 Apr 2012 #154

Should have said 'most' instead of 'any' Node Apr 2012 #159

Florida Highway Patrol. William769 Apr 2012 #163

How is he being sentenced? Was there a trial or a plea? rug Apr 2012 #10

Interesting. The jogging assaulters claim he was in Chicago stalking their teen daughter. DirkGently Apr 2012 #12

Apparently he was kicked from the University of Alabama, then followed student to Illinois. msanthrope Apr 2012 #23

Interesting. The guy may have had some issues. But if this is true its crazy. Keep digging :) Lars77 Apr 2012 #28

U of Mobile, actually, which is a Baptist affiliated school. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #135

Thank you...this guy is a bit creepy, IMHO. nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #137

where do you get the "teen"? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #26

Page 6 of the Memorandum Opinion & Order. DirkGently Apr 2012 #60

Thank you. nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #62

If anybody can find a link to what actually happened Son of Gob Apr 2012 #13

Very strange tommy777 Apr 2012 #15

Is it possible that he is here under a different name? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #17

No--Liv Larsgard is his mother, has already filed suit. msanthrope Apr 2012 #22

What a horrible story. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #18

"It turns out that the angry witnesses are all related or friends" Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #19

Well, when you plow into a family eating hot dogs at a Festival, it isn't surprising that msanthrope Apr 2012 #29

Except that he did not plow into them Lars77 Apr 2012 #31

Theres no info in norwegian papers Asniels Apr 2012 #30

Assualt with a deadly weapon. The weapon is the car. Lars77 Apr 2012 #32

D.A Candelaria says he has never seen this kind of case in AZ before..whats going on? Asniels Apr 2012 #33

Contact? ThwiX Apr 2012 #34

There might be stuff we don´t know, this guy has been in trouble before apparently. Lars77 Apr 2012 #36

This reads like a forwarded email from my aunt Courtesy Flush Apr 2012 #40

It's not an email from your aunt that_norwegian_guy Apr 2012 #129

Are you my cousin? treestar Apr 2012 #187

Found something... lorddave999 Apr 2012 #41

Hm must have gotten lost in translation. There are definately some questionmarks here. Lars77 Apr 2012 #43

He's been here for 10 years, plus, apparently....nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #63

That means nothing. vaberella Apr 2012 #95

There are some states I will not travel to or thru. Az is top of the list. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Lars77 Apr 2012 #44

New article on vg.no today Eikers Apr 2012 #48

7,5 years Eikers Apr 2012 #51

He got 7,5 years in jail minus the 230 days he´s spent already. Lars77 Apr 2012 #49

:( lorddave999 Apr 2012 #50

Um..as I noted upthread...his mom is filing a lawsuit. msanthrope Apr 2012 #61

What does 7,5 years mean? UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #105

Sevn and a half (7.5) BigLoser Apr 2012 #110

It was a serious question. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #112

Seven and a half Lars77 Apr 2012 #204

Trigger happy, brainless Americans.. Nor_wegian Apr 2012 #65

Hello and welcome to DU. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #66

Angermanagment Nor_wegian Apr 2012 #68

I understand. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #72

please cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #74

Trust me, y'all have my undivided attention. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #76

uh... cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #78

am i right??? cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #79

Slick, you need to calm down, ok? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #80

ok cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #81

Understood. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #83

Your town sounds like it needs defending Node Apr 2012 #157

lastly cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #162

Please do post it. As I note downthread, this man's claims smell like bovine fecal matter. msanthrope Apr 2012 #166

ARIZONA cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #240

You know something your being down right rude. William769 Apr 2012 #167

Breivik will be in for life. International reporters know this but it makes for a good story. Lars77 Apr 2012 #92

Hi Lars, Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #179

Yeah i was surprised, maybe its because this is the only US website where this case is brought up Lars77 Apr 2012 #203

The story is all over the web dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #208

I'd like to echo what Ruby the Liberal wrote. pacalo Apr 2012 #69

thank you. Nor_wegian Apr 2012 #96

I agree – Facts on the table BigLoser Apr 2012 #97

About that "truth and justice" vs derogatory generalizations thing Node Apr 2012 #158

Where was a gun used in this case? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #210

why talk crap? the US did nothing. he did cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #70

So tell us the facts on record BigLoser Apr 2012 #85

I am very open to the idea that this case was presented as one-sided Lars77 Apr 2012 #93

JOIN THE SUPPORT MOVEMENT FOR LARS KRISTOFFER! TheMathia Apr 2012 #94

I have posted a copy of Lars77 story on CNN iReport BigLoser Apr 2012 #98

It has not escaped notice dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #99

I am not Lars77 BigLoser Apr 2012 #101

Sorry, did not mean to suggest the you were the OP. dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #102

It's not strange at all terjemann Apr 2012 #144

New Account Alert! Node Apr 2012 #164

Do you think im a propagandist? I have said there might be more to this case than we know. Lars77 Apr 2012 #106

Again, I really didn't mean to refer to you. dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #127

Oh sorry Lars77 Apr 2012 #139

I merely quickly translated that story from VG. Lars77 Apr 2012 #107

But that's the point — Debunk BigLoser Apr 2012 #109

True. His previous history raises some question marks, but this case just seems really weird to me. Lars77 Apr 2012 #111

Lets try to sort out the facts.. terjemann Apr 2012 #100

facts cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #115

If these are the facts? BigLoser Apr 2012 #117

closing cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #121

You are good at discrediting yourself rotta Apr 2012 #125

cocernedinaz: learn how to google Nor_wegian Apr 2012 #126

fact is fact cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #128

Not in a small town BigLoser Apr 2012 #131

it was cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #133

the facts are facts...? Nor_wegian Apr 2012 #132

Even if the judge has personal motivations? that_norwegian_guy Apr 2012 #134

opinion cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #136

Michael Mendoza terjemann Apr 2012 #146

First they came for the Norwegian... kentuck Apr 2012 #103

The people of Winslow have never been fond of Norwegians. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #108

This man could possible be the most unluckiest man on the face of the Earth nt MrScorpio Apr 2012 #114

About the "Expelled from University of South Alabama" Hello_USA Apr 2012 #138

I cant find the source right now but apparently he was kicked out for threats against faculty or.. Lars77 Apr 2012 #140

Thanks for creating this ID dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #141

this keeps getting better and better.. Nor_wegian Apr 2012 #142

Newspaper articles from 2001 on Larsgard being suspended from University Eikers Apr 2012 #143

Thank you for creating this ID to discuss this dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #147

Interesting Bota Apr 2012 #145

Thanks for creating this ID dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #148

7 counts of ag assault while driving under the influence will get you 7 .5 years in jail. msanthrope Apr 2012 #149

If he was on painpills terjemann Apr 2012 #150

Thanks for creating this ID and weighing in. dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #151

:] wingzeroday Apr 2012 #156

In America we don't drink & drive. William769 Apr 2012 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author msanthrope Apr 2012 #171

I'm not sure this kind of speculation is helpful Luce Nox Apr 2012 #178

Funny i lived in Kentucky for a while. Seemed like that was the only thing people had to do. Lars77 Apr 2012 #226

What does Kentucky have to do with this. William769 Apr 2012 #227

Kentucky is in America, ref your "In america we don´t drink and drive" Lars77 Apr 2012 #228

Use the whole quote. Just like your buddy here, it makes you look foolish. William769 Apr 2012 #231

Now you're just being rude Luce Nox Apr 2012 #233

As far as I am concerned the conversation is over. William769 Apr 2012 #235

But that's exactly the problem Luce Nox Apr 2012 #236

I don´t think you´ve read all my posts. Lars77 Apr 2012 #237

Good thing your out of the conversation BigLoser Apr 2012 #238

Sorry but you are wrong Luce Nox Apr 2012 #229

If you want to quote me fine but when you don't use the whole quote, it only looks bad on you. William769 Apr 2012 #230

You are right Luce Nox Apr 2012 #232

No drinking and driving in Norway either for that matter... Eikers May 2012 #241

It might have been....do you have any actual documentation from the trial? msanthrope Apr 2012 #161

I have no reason to be bombastic terjemann Apr 2012 #198

is it because your newspapers never get it wrong? William769 Apr 2012 #200

7.5 years for seven counts of aggravated assault is not a harsh sentence obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #213

Personally I'm not buying anything, merely referencing Eikers May 2012 #242

If that is true... Bota Apr 2012 #152

I wouldn't assume Mom wasn't lying for him. msanthrope Apr 2012 #165

Definately good point Bota Apr 2012 #173

Well, then what was he actually charged with???? Not a person defending him has bothered to state msanthrope Apr 2012 #175

yes cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #176

He's lucky he got such a light sentence. nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #183

He was looking at a maximum 35 years Luce Nox Apr 2012 #185

Yep..aggravated assault is pretty serious. He got seven counts. nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #192

Confused? Bota Apr 2012 #193

I believe you're at the core of the matter now Eikers Apr 2012 #206

You don;t have to hurt someone to be charged with assault obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #215

We definitely need more facts but Luce Nox Apr 2012 #223

I agree -- it would usually be 25-50 obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #214

Apparently he was "stalking" a teenager from Mobile to Illinois. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #212

While I agree Mr. Larsgard certainly seems like a sketchy fellow Luce Nox Apr 2012 #222

I am pretty sure his mom drove the first car, not him. Lars77 Apr 2012 #224

I'm really troubled by the lack of US media about this and now.. Luce Nox Apr 2012 #160

Apparently Norwegian media was there, and didn't bother to get anything like, well, the msanthrope Apr 2012 #168

Thank you for creating this ID dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #177

Thanks but I'm not sure I follow Luce Nox Apr 2012 #180

dems_rightnow is the official thread greeter. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #201

The pay is very good dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #207

i lol'd again wingzeroday Apr 2012 #189

This man deserves freedom and NOW! nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #169

ooook... cocernedinaz Apr 2012 #170

Seriously with all due respect Luce Nox Apr 2012 #172

This doesn't smell right. sendero Apr 2012 #174

OP did a manual translation Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #182

Agreed Bota Apr 2012 #194

Found a damn interesting petition from Mr. Larsgard of Gurnee, Illinois... msanthrope Apr 2012 #181

This story just keeps getting better and better. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #184

This dude.....not tossed from school because of "terrorism," but for being an asshat... msanthrope Apr 2012 #186

Amen to that. DURHAM D Apr 2012 #188

It's the extended Larsgard family =) Luce Nox Apr 2012 #190

Happy to have all of you. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #191

Why not debate the issue terjemann Apr 2012 #199

Most of us don't get excited about defending guys who stalk girls obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #216

I hereby declare this a: hootinholler Apr 2012 #195

I was there! =) nt Luce Nox Apr 2012 #196

Internet panic-du-jour? chrisa Apr 2012 #197

CNN terjemann Apr 2012 #202

A local Norwegian pretending to be from Winslow perhaps Son of Gob Apr 2012 #205

hahahahaha obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #217

All y'all have failed with your googlefoo. hootinholler Apr 2012 #218

03/27/2012 Guilty Ptah Apr 2012 #219

This is by far the most commotion i´ve ever caused on the internet. lol Lars77 Apr 2012 #225

Well, your signature line is dead on Luce Nox Apr 2012 #234

bit more info at link wingzeroday Apr 2012 #239

Comments on the legal merits of the case - an attorneys view Eikers May 2012 #243